Selling cheap on all but Hanifin Buffalo likely doesn’t accept

I don't think vladar adds much here, it probably breaks down to vladar for the third, and jokiharju and a top 12 protected first for a few months of hanifin. I'm not much of a jokiharju fan, but he's at least a 3rd pair rhd which has some value (Sabres management and some fans might rate him higher, he's a guy). Other problem is that Buffalo's top 4 defensemen (assuming Ryan johnson continues to grow) are lefties, which means adding hanifin adds another lefty to the mix. And finally the Sabres need to start stringing together some wins or they won't be buying rentals (and up until now, adams has insisted that any trades need to make sense long term, they would have to seriously be in the race to move a first).

Deal... Lindholm slides between Bunting and Stefan as a 3/4C

Why would Vancouver trade its draft picks for a RHD?

I don't think any of these deals are cheap, maybe Tanev?

Bottom-pairing guys like Zadorov typically go for a 3rd. See: Kulak, Kulikov, Schenn, Braun, Hamonic, Dermott, etc.

Top-4 guys like Tanev typically go for a 2nd+. See: Leddy x2, Gavrikov, Manson, Graves, etc.

Just cheap compared to flames fans expectations lol I think these are good real world values

Oh yeah, for sure. Flames fans are gonna be pissed at that return.

I'd do this. I actually see Misyul as a younger Zadorov so you'd kind of replace him within 2 years. He's not far off from the NHL

Zadorov is a top 4 defender. Calgary just has 3 top pairing defensemen, which is why he requested a trade. He's being pushed down the line up.

I agree... Flames fan are going to ask for way too much for their pending UFAs

Flames fans keep saying that, but the man has never averaged more than 20:00 ATOI in his career. The most minutes he ever played was in Colorado and he was eaten alive when exposed in a Top-4 role long-term. Since 2019-20, he's ranked 151st among defensemen in ATOI, That makes him #5 on most NHL teams. That's where he'd be on most teams you'd trade him to.

No, ABSOLUTELY NOT from Buffalo

ZERO INTEREST in Vladar
And the time we *might* have traded for Hanifin is long past

Not gonna happen- no way

I like Zads for Jersey, but don't see him as top 4. Good and part of his game is needed in Jersey, but what do you think he's gonna return?

Zadorov didn’t ask for a Trade bud, his Agent pulled a Stunt to Strong Arm Conroy back to the Negotiation Table or to get Permission to start discussing a New Contract with other Teams

The Athletics Top NHL Trade Candidate Board:

1. Noah Hanifin
2. Elias Lindholm
3. Chris Tanev
4. Nikita Zadorov

They’re not gonna go cheap or for garbage like you guys seem to think…

What Fan would ever hope for less of a return btw!?

They're top candidates because they don't want to re-sign in Calgary. The same thing happened last year, and the year before, with different UFA players on different teams. The Flames were bright enough to have most of their key players expiring this year. Calgary isn't playing from a position of strength here.

They might go for more if the Flames had any leverage but they don't because those players don't want to re-sign with a team that's stuck in the mud.

There’s far more evidence to suggest all 4 Players are interested in extending with CGY than not

Non of them have outright asked for a Trade or said they want out of Calgary. Zadorov’s Agent suggested it as a strong arm negotiation tactic, but Zadorov himself has never said “I want to be Traded” or “I won’t re-sign in Calgary”. None of them have

Regardless, IF they’re Traded, each is gonna bring a haul, because there’ll be a bidding war for their services. They’ll all be in high demand

There has been more than enough rumors of them not wanting to resign that there has got to be some smoke to that fire.
None of those players are as good as you think they are... Lindholm is low-end 1C to high-end 2C, Hanifin's a top 4 defensemen, Zadorov is a bottom pairing to depth defensemen, and Tanev is a good defensemen defensemen but that's about it

Buddy, I've literally linked you multiple tweets and news articles about those players wanting out of Calgary. The only person you're fooling is yourself. We can be honest and say Calgary isn't a good team right now, it's not far-fetched to realize that veterans don't want to stick around through another rebuild.

I wouldn't want to stick around Calgary... the team is painfully mediocre and it isn't getting any better anytime soon

Sure, there’s smoke and we certainly need to figure out who wants to stay, who fits and who doesn’t, but none of those players have asked for a Trade and want out. In fact, Hanifin has a contract he’s agreed too with CGY for $7.5x8yrs=$68mil but it was put on hold. Flames are playing much better now, so it could still go either way.

I have no problem moving on if they don’t want to stick around but would prefer players & prospects who can help us now or soon rather than useless picks

Obviously we disagree on value though


Yeah and I explained them all to you as speculation the night of the stupid Milstein text, but when you hear what Zadorov had to say himself, a common sense person would see it was a negotiation tactic.

You’ve never provided anything to suggest Lindholm, Tanev or Hanifin want out and won’t extend in Calgary. Lindholm has said he’s open to it, Hanifin has a man agreeable contract on the table and Tanev should be a Professional Poker Player, cause he doesn’t show any of his cards.

Not sure if you’re just sour or you just came out of a coma and didn’t realize the Flames are rebounding…

Furthermore, we have the Best Goaltending Prospect and AHL Team in the League. Lots to be excited about in terms of guys coming up and overall depth

We just need to rid ourselves of the rats, get younger as a Forward Group, find some chemistry and guys who want to play for each other and voila, we’ll be Carolina = Very Good Team, but never gets to the Finals or Wins without a Goal being called off in CAR’s favour…. #itwasin

Of course we disagree on value... your looking at it as somebody who follows the team and i'm not.

If Zadorov didn't want to leave, he would have said "There are no trade rumors, I want to stay," instead, when asked if he wanted out of Calgary he said, "we've been discussing it," and "I loved my time in Calgary." I don't know why you're gaslighting yourself over a bottom-pairing defenseman.

Back at the start of summer, Hanifin, Lindholm, and Backlund had all expressed they wanted to move on from Calgary. Then, at the start of the season they decided they had a "willingness to stay dependent on the season."

Source: https://theathletic.com/4616800/2023/06/16/karlsson-meier-barbashev-hellebuyck-nhl-lebrun/?source=emp_shared_article

Source: https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2023/09/noah-hanifin-reverses-course-open-to-extension-in-calgary.html

Tanev spoke a few weeks back about being heartbroken the former GM of the Canucks didn't even extend an offer to him and that he'd love to be in Vancouver again. Source: https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/tanev-how-canucks-lost-him-free-agency | 32 Thoughts Podcast

The fact is, your team needs a rebuild. The Flames lost their pair of star wingers and Huberdeau wasn't the reimbursement they thought he'd be. It's disappointing to hear that, I know, but coming from a Canuck fan who watched their team struggle for the better part of a decade by trying to win hockey games they had no business trying to win, that is not it chief. The Canucks did not sell off players at their peak value and embrace the rebuild, and that would be the best course of action for Calgary.

Sell the players, take on cap hits for extra picks/prospects, and try to get Huberdeau going again with no pressure to make the postseason so that you can hopefully flip him without retaining or buying him out.

I like the facts to be accurate

Not sure what you do for a living, but obviously you don't know how negotiations work or that there's an element of bluffing and poker involved

Yes, once Sutter was fired, they were no longer wanting or in a rush to get out of town. They've all been presented offers to consider

I read that Tanev was upset and left VAN with a sour taste in his mouth, but I never saw him say he'd love to be back in VAN... I think that's the case, but he hasn't said it

The fact is, you don't know the facts and can't seem to keep them straight even though you found the resources for (which I applaud you for, since most people are too lazy)

Flames won't rebuild, they will re-tool. Be happy that VAN is playing well right now, but whether they can maintain this current play, is still up for question, especially after losing to the Sharks. Flames have improved and are on the rise

We know what we're doing here in Calgary. Go clean up the streets of Vancouver before you worry your pretty little head about what happening in C-Town