I don’t mind that NYR trade. Would be nice if you threw in Sturm as well

I wanna help the Devils more! We want that first and they need Strums services far more then the Rags loool

NYR helped you guys first by giving you Emberson for free 😂

He’s been awesome lol!

Some people are critical of their teams losing guys - and flourishing elsewhere (we’ve seen it with many sharks) but sometimes there’s nothing you can do.

Emberson is playing top pair in SJS and he never would have seen that in NY, so I can’t fault the Rangers. I’m interested to see where Emberson goes as the year drags on - he’s been solid so far but the real slog starts soon. And if the Sharks sell off like suggested here there’s going to be a lot more growing pains.. again.

Zero chance Carolina coughs up Morrow for Hoffman, let alone Morrow+.

Yeah because it's a steal. Goodrows contract is a 2nd + to dump and Barabanov is 2nd/high 3rd on his own. So it's already terrible for SJ.

Barabanov has been injured and 0 points in 6 games. There has to be changed to see that evaluation change this TDL.



It was a suggestion to check in. If Hoffman has a stat line that I suggested, to dump Fast and add a 2nd line scorer for a run, it’s more than fair. Thrun got a 3rd and you could argue if Hoffman has 20g he could return more then a third in some scenarios.

Hahaha nah I’m happy for him. He was great in the AHL last year and definitely deserved a shot

A lot of these are just terrible for SJ. the Carolina one is not close though. they got Trun for a 3rd because Anaheim was losing him to UFA anyway. They had no leverage.
Unless Morrow has stated that he's not signing then I very much doubt that comes even close.

I stated why the Rags one is bad for SJ above. The NJ one just makes no sense at all

The Oilers one would be fair is SJ was giving up Future Considerations and nothing more. In general I'm very against picking up Campbell unless the return is massive

Being stingy as an organization will hurt more than delaying the rebuild - simply factual. What you’re suggesting only delays us getting better (not making trades to rebuild immediately$.
As I’ve said above the Morrow suggestion is a suggestion to see if things are going the Thrun direction.
If we want the Devils first they have to improve - and Strums amazing but he is not going to help us rebuild. He’ll be 30 + bu the team were even trying to be good.

COL will pass on that

Devils aren't making playoffs, let alone conference finals. They will probably end up picking before San Jose.

lol

How'd that playoff L taste?

Last year was a fluke

debbies are back to normal now

Also zero chance that Carolina coughs up Fast... he plays an underrated but very important role

Devils are 6th in 5v5 xGoals share. And now brendan smith is out of the defensive lineup (they're at 57% without him on which would rank 2nd).

Every single devil except nosek, smith, tierney, and willman are above 47%. None of those guys project to be in a healthy lineup.

Expected goals aren't goals.

The eastern conference champ was 45% ...and beat the snot out of toronto, carolina and their 55%

Actual goals are what matter.

Morrow is the Canes top RD prospect, and ultimately the successor for Burns. Hoffman isn’t getting a top prospect even if he hits 20 goals. Fast isn’t a cap dump either.

Even if Hoffman hits 20 goals, it’s unlikely he would even be a target for the Canes. Everyone already knows he is a 1 dimensional player, and completely useless everywhere else on the ice. The Canes tend to avoid those kinds of players like the plague.

Expected goals are the best predictor of future actual goals.

You can't bank on your goalie suddenly becoming 10x better than what he has done in the past 5 years, or the 2 vezina goalies you went against in round 1 falling apart. Could happen to anyone.

Unfortunately last year you got smoked even despite shesterkin playing his best hockey

You guys have one line, two defense pairings, and a goalie that are worthy of a contender... you aren't going to be able to get far with that... both the Hurricanes and Devils have deeper teams than the Rangers

Agreed.

Dump Fast??? Bruh... you are wildly misreading this whole thing. They're not trying to ditch Fast OR trade Morrow for an aging one trick pony. Thinking both would be fair is just wacky.

No thanks Devils decline. Rather Duhaime or blais who do everything Strum and Carpy do.

Nothing in that deal for the Devils imo