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Équipe: 2023-24 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 22 nov. 2023
Publié: 22 nov. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. Fantilli, Adam
  2. Jiricek, David
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CBJ)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (CBJ)
CBJ
  1. McDavid, Connor (6 250 000 $ retained)
2.
EDM
  1. Lambos, Carson
  2. Wallstedt, Jesper
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (MIN)
Détails additionnels:
Top 10 protected
MIN
  1. Draisaitl, Leon (4 250 000 $ retained)
3.
EDM
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (STL)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
4.
EDM
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
5.
EDM
  1. Krebs, Peyton
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (BUF)
6.
EDM
  1. Coyle, Charlie
  2. Lysell, Fabian
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (BOS)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2026 (BOS)
BOS
  1. Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan (2 500 000 $ retained)
7.
EDM
  1. Lee, Anders
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (NYI)
8.
EDM
  1. Carter, Jeff
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2026 (PIT)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
Logo de EDM
Logo de CBJ
Logo de MIN
Logo de BUF
Logo de NYI
Logo de EDM
Logo de STL
Logo de TOR
Logo de PIT
Logo de NYI
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de NSH
2025
Logo de EDM
Logo de CBJ
Logo de BOS
Logo de NYI
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
2026
Logo de EDM
Logo de BOS
Logo de EDM
Logo de PIT
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $66 095 832 $850 000 $9 112 500 $17 404 168 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
775 000 $775 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 200 000 $$3M)
C
RFA - 3
Logo de Bruins de Boston
863 333 $863 333 $
AD
RFA - 3
Logo de Islanders de New York
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance412 500 $$412K)
C, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
807 500 $807 500 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
775 000 $775 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 125 000 $3 125 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
775 000 $775 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 225 000 $$3M)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
863 333 $863 333 $
DG
RFA - 3
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
918 333 $918 333 $ (Bonis de performance1 000 000 $$1M)
DD
RFA - 3
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
762 500 $762 500 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance650 000 $$650K)
AG, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
900 000 $900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2

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22 nov. 2023 à 21 h 14
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
If you want to focus exclusively on my wording, see below:



If you want to keep trolling, go for it. I have no issues with infracting you accordingly. I haven't moved the goalposts, you've just maintained a persistent intellectual dishonesty during this entire argument. Goodnight.


That's incredible, big man threatening me with his mod powers because he doesn't like being proven wrong in a discussion. Really good work.

"Intellectual dishonesty" because you keep moving goalposts. Really incredible stuff. Really good look for you.
22 nov. 2023 à 21 h 27
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
The moment Columbus finds a #1C and a goaltender, they have no reason to not be competing with the top teams in the Metropolitan. The same can be said for the Wild too.

If a roster is composed of 21 to 23 players and you're only quality two pieces away from being a legitimately good team, AND the Oilers come offering one of Connor and Leon, care to tell me if those are relatively complete rosters?


MN's roster needs a 1C, 1RD, 1LD, 3LD, 1G, and a top-6 winger. That's without even looking at the cap; which they have 0 space, and very limited ability to open up any space due to all the NTCs and dead cap.

On the surface Drais would be great for MN. A deeper look and MN is just better off keeping their stuff and hope Kap is good enough to drag them into the Playoffs. The roster/cap management has been terrible under their GM.
22 nov. 2023 à 21 h 34
#28
Démarrer sujet
GO LEAFS GO
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
Lambos and Wallstedt haven't played an NHL game yet. I don't care what they're projected to be. What are the Oilers getting TODAY if they decide to trade Leon Draisaitl, known top 3 player in the NHL at 50% retention?

This isn't NHL23, "potential" means absolutely nothing. Jack Eichel fetched a top-six winger, a top prospect, a first, and a second round pick. You can maybe rationalize that the first three elements of that deal get you what you've offered for Draisaitl - a first and two prospects. Eichel got more, and Draisaitl comes without the injury history, is better, and comes at 45% the price of Eichel's cap hit.

You have not offered enough.


Teams abouslety value potential, and if we are valuing players just today dristail hasn't been a top 3 player in the leauge this year
22 nov. 2023 à 21 h 36
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Quoting: Thetypicalleafsfann
They need LHD

They don't need an overpaid Nurse. No one wants Nurse at 9.25 mil. He's not worth it
22 nov. 2023 à 22 h 51
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Jackets will have absolutely no interest in this deal. We will keep fantilli and jiricek for the next decade. If mcdavid wants to play for Columbus then he can sign as a UFA in a few years lol
23 nov. 2023 à 2 h 11
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Sabres decline

Not looking for a LH defenseman
Especially not one with a bigger contract like his
27 nov. 2023 à 17 h 36
#32
Ban Price trades
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Quoting: Caerii
That's incredible, big man threatening me with his mod powers because he doesn't like being proven wrong in a discussion. Really good work.

"Intellectual dishonesty" because you keep moving goalposts. Really incredible stuff. Really good look for you.


Quoting: Thetypicalleafsfann
Teams abouslety value potential, and if we are valuing players just today dristail hasn't been a top 3 player in the leauge this year


I owe the two of you an apology.

While I remain adamant that the value for McDavid and Draisaitl in this AGM are still short of what they'd fetch fully retained, my conduct in this thread was poor as best. There isn't a single user here that deserves the kind of responses I was giving you guys, and these forums deserve better from their moderators in general. That's something I'll have to keep working on, no excuses.

Happy posting gents.
RazWild a aimé ceci.
 
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