Add McMichael and Flames may accept

nah ... way too much. Maybe a team will give you an overpayment like that but that is how you kill a future / current team

Well the current offer is quite light so idk what to tell you lol

Horvat had 30+ goals and 50+ points in 49gp and he fetched a 1st + Beauvillier (okay roster player) + solid prospect. Lindholm is getting more with a worse year?

you guys are expecting Horvat + value without Horvat like production lol "quite light" yeah sorry you want Leonard also?

I look forward to the disappointment of fans hoping to get a kings ransom for their expiring UFA who is underperforming. I wouldn’t give this up for Lindholm.

Or Columbus just beats the offer for Lindholm, which they can easily do, and gets a player that better fits their team makeup than a center who neither plays defense nor wins faceoffs.

lol yeah Lindholm is on pace for 50-55points this year... Horvat had that b4 the deadline and dudes like " this offer is light" yeah sorry im not giving up more value for a superior talent. Maybe a desperate team will but im not moving McM or another young roster player just to overpay (salary and trade) a player that had his best season ( only a ppg average) playing with JG 115p and MT 105p

thats also fair... CBJ is going to pay a 28 year old a max contract? a guy who is struggling away from his 100+ point wingers? do it in a rebuilding window

edit: might be smart bc JG is a jacket

Lol Horvat was scoring at an absurdly lucky rate. If you think his return was based on a 22% shooting percent you are completely out to lunch. Lindholm is a far better player all around than Horvat. I expect Lindholm will get a better return than Lindholm simply out of being a clearly better hockey player.

Lindholm isn’t significantly better than Horvat to be “clearly a better hockey player”. Both can play 1C in a pinch, but in no way are they 1C’s on true contenders. You’d be lucky to get a significant prospect along with the deal proposed above.

Lindholm isn’t significantly better than Horvat to be “clearly a better hockey player”. Both can play 1C in a pinch, but in no way are they 1C’s on true contenders. You’d be lucky to get a significant prospect along with the deal proposed above.

Jackets won’t have interest in Kuz. They would be looking for a player like strome or mcmichael. If they can’t get what they are looking for they will just keep him. Not gonna trade him when his value is at his lowest

The above offer is bad lol, the only appealing part about it is the thought that Washington probably isn't a playoff team. Alexeyev is a depth defenseman entering his prime, you can keep him, he's a filler piece.

If you want Lindholm you will have to pay up something relevant.

As for Lindholm vs Horvat. Lindholm is a top 20 center in the league, Horvat is probably in the 30-50 range. If your idea of a 1C on a true contender is a top 10 center in the league then sure but LA is doing just fine with Kopitar, Dallas is a clear contender with Hintz, the Jets with Scheifele, the Flyers with pretty much identical player to Lindholm in Couturier, and the Bruins with freaking Zacha

Lindholm is top 20?

Mcdavid
Draisaitl
McKinnon
Crosby
Malkin
Mathews
Point
Aho
Pettersson
Hintz
Larkin
Barkov
Kopitar
Hughes
Hischier
Norris
Stutzle
Tavares
Hertl
Miller
Eichel
Stephenson
Scheifele

That doesn’t include players that are questionably better.

Lindholm is in the 25-35 maybe range. Realistically outside the top 30.

You can't possibly think that Larkin, Kopitar, Hischier, Norris, Tavares, Hertl, Miller, Stephenson, and Scheifele are all better than Lindholm, right? Yikes

Honestly you have a strong bias towards Lindholm so it’s not really worth continuing this. Realistically he’s a solid 1b/2 center that only had solid offensive numbers when playing w elite wingers. I believe he’s a top 30-40 center. All those players are better not to mention the young players like Mctavish / Bedard who just entered the league.

Yikes? Miller is #2 in points atm lol. Yes all those guys are better. To think he’s a top 20 center is delusional and almost laughable. He’s a great player but the amount of glorifying you are doing is staggering. I hope Flames get a haul for him. They made some questionable signing trying to stay competitive and those turned out to be horrible so they’ll need to capitalize this deadline.

It's amazing to me that a fan of Washington has zero appreciation for defensive play from centers after 16 seasons of Nicklas Backstrom. Tavares, Miller, and Scheifele are some the biggest defensive liability centers in the league.

Over the past 3 seasons (this season included so far), Lindholm is 32nd among centers in P/GP (min 50 GP).

Ahead of him included in your list: Larkin, Hischier, Tavares, Miller, and Schiefele. Kopitar is tied, also with 0.88 P/GP. Horvat is 37th with 0.82 P/GP.

Over the past 3 seasons (this season included so far). Lindholm is 24th in Goals.

Ahead of him included in your list: Larkin, Tavares, Horvat, Miller, Schiefele,

I think that @Capitalfail67 is pretty accurate with the Horvat value (1st + prospect + roster player). Maybe a little more, because Lindholm does have a 5% better contract than Horvat. Lindholm is a good 1B option.