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if we rebuild

Créé par: chealy2
Équipe: 2024-25 Islanders de New York
Date de création initiale: 16 nov. 2023
Publié: 16 nov. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
3775 000 $
31 200 000 $
2775 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
21 200 000 $
Transactions
1.
NYI
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
TOR
    Matt Martin 50% retained at '24 Deadline
    2.
    NYI
    1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (NYR)
    2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2025 (ARI)
    3.
    NYI
    1. Heinola, Ville [Droits de RFA]
    2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (WPG)
    3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2026 (WPG)
    WPG
    1. Pelech, Adam
    Détails additionnels:
    This is obviously with the assumption that Pelech is willing to waive his NTC
    4.
    NYI
    1. Frederic, Trent
    2. Lysell, Fabian
    3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (BOS)
    4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (BOS)
    Détails additionnels:
    Based this return off the Horvat trade -

    Frederic: comparable to Beauvillier as an asset, although 1 year older at time of trade + only 1 year remaining instead of 2
    Lysell: comparable to Raty
    1st: probably a late 1st
    3rd: makes up for difference between frederic/beauvillier + full season of Nelson as opposed to only a half season of Horvat
    BOS
    1. Nelson, Brock (3 000 000 $ retained)
    Rachats de contrats
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
    2024
    Logo de NYI
    Logo de NYI
    Logo de NYI
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de NYI
    Logo de NYI
    Logo de NYI
    2025
    Logo de NYI
    Logo de WPG
    Logo de BOS
    Logo de NYI
    Logo de NYI
    Logo de NYR
    Logo de NYI
    Logo de NYI
    Logo de NYI
    Logo de ARI
    Logo de NYI
    2026
    Logo de NYI
    Logo de NYI
    Logo de BOS
    Logo de NYI
    Logo de WPG
    Logo de NYI
    Logo de NYI
    Logo de NYI
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2386 500 000 $73 592 500 $0 $350 000 $12 907 500 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
    AD
    RFA
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    9 150 000 $9 150 000 $
    C, AD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 7
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    870 000 $870 000 $ (Bonis de performance80 000 $$80K)
    AD
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
    AD, AG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 6
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
    C
    NTC
    UFA - 7
    Logo de Bruins de Boston
    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
    AD
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Bruins de Boston
    2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    775 000 $775 000 $
    C
    RFA
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    AD, AG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    UFA
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
    C
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    859 167 $859 167 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
    AD
    RFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    8 250 000 $8 250 000 $
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 8
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    800 000 $800 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    6 150 000 $6 150 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
    DG
    UFA
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    775 000 $775 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    775 000 $775 000 $
    AG
    UFA
    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
    DG
    UFA

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    16 nov. 2023 à 18 h 28
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    Unlikely Winnipeg pays that much for yet another LHD.
    16 nov. 2023 à 18 h 29
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    Jets decline…huge
    A 1st, a 4th, and a good young D player for a 29yr old over payed 20 point LHD, with 5 more yrs on his contract, who does nothing to address our needs
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    16 nov. 2023 à 18 h 32
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    Nelson isn't getting a return like Horvat got
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    16 nov. 2023 à 18 h 33
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    Martin is interesting but the forwards are doing well right now don’t know if i wanna mess with that don’t even really want Kane to sign either and there’s been plenty of rumours about that
    16 nov. 2023 à 18 h 37
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    I don't see Boston going after Nelson for strategic reasons. He's still a great player in my book, but he's 32 and he only has one year left after this. Signing him again would be a risk due to his age and likely high cap hit. Also, despite the current standings, I don't think the Bruins are in a position to make an all-in push this year or next, so trying to win it all on his current contract would be a bit of a long-shot.
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    16 nov. 2023 à 18 h 53
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    Jets would go after pulock not pelech lol
    16 nov. 2023 à 19 h 11
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    If I am Boston, I’m kicking the tires on Barzal. Fits their needs for the future. I would offer the above package with added sweeteners and see if Lou bites. More than likely, other teams offer better packages but Bruins should get younger, not older.
    16 nov. 2023 à 20 h 7
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    Lol since when are Horvat and Nelson compareable in trade values? Nelson is four years older than Horvat... and Frederic and Lysell are better assets/players than Beauvillier and Raty.
    16 nov. 2023 à 20 h 10
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    Quoting: JDHockey
    If I am Boston, I’m kicking the tires on Barzal. Fits their needs for the future. I would offer the above package with added sweeteners and see if Lou bites. More than likely, other teams offer better packages but Bruins should get younger, not older.


    I agree - the move for the Bruins here isn't to acquire Nelson. Change this deal to Debrusk, Lysell, a 1st, and a 3rd for Barzal and it probably gets some more traction. Probably beaten out by another team though.
    16 nov. 2023 à 21 h 38
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    NTU

    Martin aint anything they need
    23 nov. 2023 à 17 h 44
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    Quoting: ON3M4N
    Nelson isn't getting a return like Horvat got


    Quoting: BruinsWoahWoah
    Lol since when are Horvat and Nelson compareable in trade values? Nelson is four years older than Horvat... and Frederic and Lysell are better assets/players than Beauvillier and Raty.


    Nelson at 50% retained for 1.5 years absolutely gets a Horvat like return. Horvat was acquired as a rental after having a career year in a contract year. Horvat never had more than 31 goals in a season in Vancouver (he had 31 at the time of the trade but slowed down considerably after being traded). He only 3 seasons over 25 goals. Nelson has back to back 36+ goal seasons and is currently on pace for 45 this year. He’s scored over 25 goals 5 times in a season and is also a good defensive player. He was a goal scorer is a highly defensive system and still found ways to score.

    If you don’t think Nelson gets a similar return to Horvat then you’re higher than a kite.
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    23 nov. 2023 à 23 h 32
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    Quoting: GreatWhiteNorth
    Nelson at 50% retained for 1.5 years absolutely gets a Horvat like return. Horvat was acquired as a rental after having a career year in a contract year. Horvat never had more than 31 goals in a season in Vancouver (he had 31 at the time of the trade but slowed down considerably after being traded). He only 3 seasons over 25 goals. Nelson has back to back 36+ goal seasons and is currently on pace for 45 this year. He’s scored over 25 goals 5 times in a season and is also a good defensive player. He was a goal scorer is a highly defensive system and still found ways to score.

    If you don’t think Nelson gets a similar return to Horvat then you’re higher than a kite.


    Horvat was also 5 years younger at the time he was traded... sorry Bruins aren't giving up two young players and first for a 32 year old Nelson
     
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