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Nylander signing rights questions for all

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Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 12 nov. 2023
Publié: 12 nov. 2023
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  1. Nylander, William
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Let’s say they play out this year and Nylander continues this crazy pace or close to it and the leafs can’t or just don’t sign him HOW MUCH WOULD HIS SIGNING RIGHTS BE WORTH?
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2183 500 000 $76 469 084 $0 $0 $7 030 916 $
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10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
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925 000 $925 000 $
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
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12 nov. 2023 à 18 h 19
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Probably a 3rd but it would need to be a sign and trade imo
12 nov. 2023 à 18 h 23
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Nylander resigns so this is a pointless topic
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12 nov. 2023 à 18 h 25
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Signing rights are no more than a 3rd round pick period.
12 nov. 2023 à 18 h 27
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A 3rd or 4th round pick
12 nov. 2023 à 18 h 27
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i think you could potentially get a second, he would be probably one of the best FA to hit the market.
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12 nov. 2023 à 18 h 30
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If Severson got a 3rd you could probably convince some team to pay a 2nd
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12 nov. 2023 à 18 h 30
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Lol all the goons who are desperate to get Nylander nothing are meeting up on a Sunday. Precious
12 nov. 2023 à 19 h 53
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Quoting: Kinger25
Nylander resigns so this is a pointless topic


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Nylander resigns so this is a pointless topic



With the way he playing. I don’t think so
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12 nov. 2023 à 19 h 54
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With the way he playing. I don’t think so


I just pray they sign him to 10 before he wants more
12 nov. 2023 à 19 h 55
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I just pray they sign him to 10 before he wants more


Yeah that’s dead now. 11+
12 nov. 2023 à 20 h 1
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Yeah that’s dead now. 11+


I hope not if they budge to 10 you gotta think he signs that he wants to stay so what if he thinks he’s worth 11 it was very publicly known that he wants 10 so you gotta think he takes it
12 nov. 2023 à 20 h 3
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It’s an interesting scenario.

Severson got a 3rd…but dmen have longer shelf life (and Sevo really wanted the 8th year). So hard to use as comp.

I think the last time a top winger saw his rights traded was Scott Hartnell, who was shipped from Nashville to Philly with a dman for a 1st (but it was, in a way, the completion of the Forsberg trade…and was probably in a grey area of the rules at the time). But could maybe build a comp around that one.

Maybe they could get a rental replacement. Depends which team.
13 nov. 2023 à 3 h 57
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I hope not if they budge to 10 you gotta think he signs that he wants to stay so what if he thinks he’s worth 11 it was very publicly known that he wants 10 so you gotta think he takes it


Does Tree really have the appetite to give this core another kick at the can? You pay Nylander 10 and you've basically eaten up the entire cap jump with his new salary. Then Mitch is going to need his raise, probably a solid 2 mil more than he makes now. Sure, Tavares comes off the books, but now you need a 2C and there don't appear to be any internal options, maybe you resign Tavares to 7AAV for a few years, total cap gain between now and the 25-26 season is -$1mil. So whatever the cap jump is for the next two seasons, take away a mil of that, and use it to upgrade on D, the bottom 6, and goaltending.

I just don't see it working.
13 nov. 2023 à 8 h 3
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Does Tree really have the appetite to give this core another kick at the can? You pay Nylander 10 and you've basically eaten up the entire cap jump with his new salary. Then Mitch is going to need his raise, probably a solid 2 mil more than he makes now. Sure, Tavares comes off the books, but now you need a 2C and there don't appear to be any internal options, maybe you resign Tavares to 7AAV for a few years, total cap gain between now and the 25-26 season is -$1mil. So whatever the cap jump is for the next two seasons, take away a mil of that, and use it to upgrade on D, the bottom 6, and goaltending.

I just don't see it working.


Resign Tavares to 3.5 is what I do when I make the teams he’ll be ready to take a pay cut
13 nov. 2023 à 12 h 38
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Resign Tavares to 3.5 is what I do when I make the teams he’ll be ready to take a pay cut


I have an impossible time believing he wouldn't take that as a direct insult. Maybe you could get him to take 6, but you're not going to find a 2C willing to come to TO for less than that, at least not one that's any good.
13 nov. 2023 à 13 h 5
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I have an impossible time believing he wouldn't take that as a direct insult. Maybe you could get him to take 6, but you're not going to find a 2C willing to come to TO for less than that, at least not one that's any good.


I would argue he will there’s not gonna be a lot of cap left after Knies and woll get they’re raises, he definitely doesn’t want to leave Toronto
13 nov. 2023 à 13 h 19
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I would argue he will there’s not gonna be a lot of cap left after Knies and woll get they’re raises, he definitely doesn’t want to leave Toronto


Whether there's cap space or not, pride plays a role, and while he may not want to leave Toronto, offering him bad 3rd line/good 4th line money to play on the 2nd line, after being the captain for YEARS and still producing at a prodigious rate, that's an offer likely so insulting he walks.
 
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