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Créé par: Skyraider112
Équipe: 2024-25 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 11 nov. 2023
Publié: 11 nov. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
2825 000 $
2825 000 $
2825 000 $
33 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
22 500 000 $
54 500 000 $
21 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. Dach, Kirby
  2. Dvorak, Christian
  3. Guhle, Kaiden
  4. Roy, Joshua
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (CGY)
2.
EDM
3.
EDM
  1. Carlo, Brandon
Détails additionnels:
DeBrusk
4.
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
Logo de EDM
Logo de MTL
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de NSH
2025
Logo de EDM
Logo de CGY
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
2026
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
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Logo de EDM
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2387 000 000 $89 327 500 $3 450 000 $420 000 $-2 327 500 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
835 000 $835 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Stars de Dallas
9 850 000 $9 850 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
2 625 000 $2 625 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
C
RFA - 1
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Bruins de Boston
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
G
UFA
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG
RFA
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
825 000 $825 000 $
AD, C
RFA
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
825 000 $825 000 $
AD, C
RFA
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
900 000 $900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1

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11 nov. 2023 à 21 h 12
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Gonna have to add more to that Dallas deal or retain a good bit on nurse
11 nov. 2023 à 21 h 14
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Still no

Boston is not trading Carlo for RNH. Period. End of story

RNH full NMC and Carlo NTC problematic as well.
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11 nov. 2023 à 21 h 29
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So a 1c, a top pairing D, a A prospect, a top 10 pick, another good first and a reliable 3c for Draisaitl. Yeah, the habs will have to pass on that
11 nov. 2023 à 21 h 56
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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
So a 1c, a top pairing D, a A prospect, a top 10 pick, another good first and a reliable 3c for Draisaitl. Yeah, the habs will have to pass on that


I can agree on the Roy and pick statements but Guhle isn’t a top pairing dman yet, he has the potential but still lots of room to grow for him, dach is not a 1C he’s a complimentary first line winger on a middle pack team who would be a 2nd liner on a cup contender and Dvorak has never been reliable or consistent.

I will say I wouldn’t probably do this deal as teams win by having depth not 2 stars but you definitely overrated a few assets here
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11 nov. 2023 à 21 h 59
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Quoting: Dekes
I can agree on the Roy and pick statements but Guhle isn’t a top pairing dman yet, he has the potential but still lots of room to grow for him, dach is not a 1C he’s a complimentary first line winger on a middle pack team who would be a 2nd liner on a cup contender and Dvorak has never been reliable or consistent.

I will say I wouldn’t probably do this deal as teams win by having depth not 2 stars but you definitely overrated a few assets here

Guhle looked like a top pairing Dman tonight and nights before. Dach showed he can be a 70 pts 1c, he is just injury prone. Dvorak is a fine 3c. He win faceoff and make almost no mistake defensively.
11 nov. 2023 à 22 h 3
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Quoting: Dekes
I can agree on the Roy and pick statements but Guhle isn’t a top pairing dman yet, he has the potential but still lots of room to grow for him, dach is not a 1C he’s a complimentary first line winger on a middle pack team who would be a 2nd liner on a cup contender and Dvorak has never been reliable or consistent.

I will say I wouldn’t probably do this deal as teams win by having depth not 2 stars but you definitely overrated a few assets here


A 2 point game tonight. 1-5-6 and +9 in 10 games. He's not that far off.
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11 nov. 2023 à 22 h 12
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Fair assessment for one of the best players in the world just not the right trade partner. Habs pass.
11 nov. 2023 à 22 h 19
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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
Guhle looked like a top pairing Dman tonight and nights before. Dach showed he can be a 70 pts 1c, he is just injury prone. Dvorak is a fine 3c. He win faceoff and make almost no mistake defensively.


But dach also played a lot of minutes on caufield and Suzukis line. You tell me who’s the 3rd option there, I do like dach and think he’s a solid playmaker who has good size but I think he’s a better 2nd line player based on individual skill
11 nov. 2023 à 22 h 56
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Quoting: Dekes
I can agree on the Roy and pick statements but Guhle isn’t a top pairing dman yet, he has the potential but still lots of room to grow for him, dach is not a 1C he’s a complimentary first line winger on a middle pack team who would be a 2nd liner on a cup contender and Dvorak has never been reliable or consistent.

I will say I wouldn’t probably do this deal as teams win by having depth not 2 stars but you definitely overrated a few assets here


Debatable points, but Guhle and Dach are part of the core group regardless.
The impact of adding Draisaitl (or anyone else) would be reduced by moving other parts of our core group to make it happen, which is why I'm not doing it.
A package involving veterans and/or non-roster elements, sure.
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15 nov. 2023 à 22 h 19
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Quoting: ricochetii
Debatable points, but Guhle and Dach are part of the core group regardless.
The impact of adding Draisaitl (or anyone else) would be reduced by moving other parts of our core group to make it happen, which is why I'm not doing it.
A package involving veterans and/or non-roster elements, sure.


I mean, only one of those players is having any impact for the Habs right now. Guhle. Dach is out, Dvorak is mediocre, Roy isn't playing in the NHL, the 1sts aren't on the roster. You are getting the "second" best player in the NHL. Montreal would be stupid to turn that down especially if they believe they can resign Drai

Quoting: Jay27
Fair assessment for one of the best players in the world just not the right trade partner. Habs pass.


Fair enough I just see Montreal as a team that would be in the market for another centre. Suzuki is good but having Drai and him as the 1-2 punch would be insane.

Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
So a 1c, a top pairing D, a A prospect, a top 10 pick, another good first and a reliable 3c for Draisaitl. Yeah, the habs will have to pass on that


You say that like your getting some scrub. You are getting the "second" best player in the NHL. Its gonna cost a hefty fee.

Quoting: Gofnut999
Still no

Boston is not trading Carlo for RNH. Period. End of story

RNH full NMC and Carlo NTC problematic as well.


Not the end of the story, this is only the beginning...
15 nov. 2023 à 23 h 45
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I mean, only one of those players is having any impact for the Habs right now. Guhle. Dach is out, Dvorak is mediocre, Roy isn't playing in the NHL, the 1sts aren't on the roster. You are getting the "second" best player in the NHL. Montreal would be stupid to turn that down especially if they believe they can resign Drai



Fair enough I just see Montreal as a team that would be in the market for another centre. Suzuki is good but having Drai and him as the 1-2 punch would be insane.



You say that like your getting some scrub. You are getting the "second" best player in the NHL. Its gonna cost a hefty fee.



Not the end of the story, this is only the beginning...


I wouldn't say it would be wrong to turn it down.
If you have a plan and are a fair way down that path already, you aren't going to make progress by changing that plan every time an opportunity arises.
Finding good fits without too much deviation isn't necessarily "stupid".

Guhle and Dach are part of the plan. Roy may already be as well. Suzuki and Caufield are both signed long term already. Jury is out on Slaf, Newhook, and Reinbacher still, but they are included for now. Hutson might be considered in that "untouchable" group too.

There's nothing wrong with having a "vision" and only executing moves which help fulfill that vision. Tampa has made trade after trade, regardless of value, to fulfill their vision. You could say the same about Vegas.
Arizona meanwhile, trades almost entirely on value.
Then there are teams like Edmonton and Toronto who make more reactionary moves and always seem to be looking for answers.
 
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