A good few of those guys are LTIRetired though so I don’t think they’d count

Weber, Voracek, Price no longer really in NHL (and possibly add Bäckström to that list too)

Not sure Vlasic was ever 'elite;'...nor Carter or Voracek

I'd add in Norris winner Mark Giodarno...

Patrick Kane and Jonathan Toews.

Kane could still be signed at some point and IIRC Toews hasn't officially retired yet either.

So technically, they're both still in the NHL.

Edit: Oh, and Hot Dog Phil.

Carter did have a 46 goals 84 point season 1x... I agree though not really elite, but he does have a few cups.

Also, Tavares is not really past his elite seasons...EK65 just had the best season of his career.

Points / 60 last season and ranking among their peers (forwards / defenseman)
Crosby: 2.62, 22nd
Malkin: 2.32, 48th
Ovy: 2.27, 52nd
Karlsson: 2.25, 1st

Guys who are commonly called elite:
Matthews: 2.67, 20th
Draisaitl: 2.36, 43rd
Rantanen: 2.27, 54th
Lindholm: 2.05, 87th
Makar: 1.5, 6th
Fox: 1.39, 13th

Don't know what you're taking about. Just say old guys next time.

and Zach Parise too

True, I did forget him.

I honestly think if he doesn't get signed in the next week or two he'll call it career though.

Jeff Carter has a legit shot @ HHOF:
2-Cups
1-OG
1-WJr Gold
1-AHL Calder Cup
1-u18 Gold
>425G reg season
>45G playoffs

If Jeff Carter gets in Hall-of-Fame....and Mogilny and Elias don't....we riot.

They should be in (edit esp AM) and JC has the the hardware/hall-potential over his "Hockey" career....

Mogilny career
-- 1032 points
-- 473 goals
-- 1 cup
-- 1 Rocket Richard
-- 1 Lady Byng
-- U20 gold
-- WC gold
-- Olympic gold (triple Gold club)

Elias career
-- 1025 pts
-- three cups
-- 125 playoff pts (3rd most in career window)
-- Olympic bronze, three time WC bronze
-- Two time Czech POY
-- Calder finalist
-- six time All-star

If we are including guys like Kariya, Alfredsson and the Sedins...both of these guys should 100% be in.

And if they were Canadian, they would be.

No argument here on their validity as shown ^ ^