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would love to make something like this work-what do you think calgary fans

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Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 21 oct. 2023
Publié: 27 oct. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
OTT
  1. Tanev, Christopher (2 000 000 $ retained)
CGY
  1. Kastelic, Mark
  2. Kubalik, Dominik
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (OTT)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2183 500 000 $72 251 547 $0 $1 850 000 $11 248 453 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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8 205 714 $8 205 714 $
AG
UFA - 5
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8 350 000 $8 350 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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894 167 $894 167 $
AG
RFA - 2
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7 950 000 $7 950 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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4 975 000 $4 975 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
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2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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863 333 $863 333 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 1
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870 000 $870 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
AG
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
DG
UFA - 1
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-875 000 $-875 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 2
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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916 667 $916 667 $
DG
RFA - 2
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813 333 $813 333 $
DD
RFA - 1
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805 000 $805 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD, AG
RFA - 1
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
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4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4

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27 oct. 2023 à 23 h 29
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Modifié 27 oct. 2023 à 23 h 37
Change the 2nd to a 1st and add JBD as a replacement RD and maybe we’d consider it 🤔

Actually, we would probably take Pinto’s Signing Rights instead of the 1st. Yes, even though he’s suspended
27 oct. 2023 à 23 h 30
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Kastelic is a pretty replaceable player and Kubalik does nothing for Calgary. If the Flames sell Tanev will probably have decently high demand, especially if retained. I imagine the minimum price is 2 2nds and maybe even a mid-late 1st
27 oct. 2023 à 23 h 31
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This shouldn't be enough for Calgary, but if it somehow was I would do it
28 oct. 2023 à 3 h 33
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Change the 2nd to a 1st and add JBD as a replacement RD and maybe we’d consider it 🤔

Actually, we would probably take Pinto’s Signing Rights instead of the 1st. Yes, even though he’s suspended


No interest in Kastelic or Kubalik but we could be talked into taking Kubalik to balance the cap.

And yes Pinto's rights would work well for us. It'd be extra cap space until the extension runs out and a low prorated cap hit after he's re-signed.
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28 oct. 2023 à 6 h 23
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Kastelic is a pretty replaceable player and Kubalik does nothing for Calgary. If the Flames sell Tanev will probably have decently high demand, especially if retained. I imagine the minimum price is 2 2nds and maybe even a mid-late 1st

Two 2nds is probably a little rich, maybe a 2nd and a prospect
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Change the 2nd to a 1st and add JBD as a replacement RD and maybe we’d consider it 🤔

Actually, we would probably take Pinto’s Signing Rights instead of the 1st. Yes, even though he’s suspended


Quoting: MoxNix
No interest in Kastelic or Kubalik but we could be talked into taking Kubalik to balance the cap.

And yes Pinto's rights would work well for us. It'd be extra cap space until the extension runs out and a low prorated cap hit after he's re-signed.


LOL trading a 1st or Pinto plus for a 33 year old defenceman on a 1 year deal definitely makes a lot of sense....... No thanks from OTT
28 oct. 2023 à 6 h 26
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LOL trading a 1st or Pinto plus for a 33 year old defenceman on a 1 year deal definitely makes a lot of sense....... No thanks from OTT


Weird how you bring up his age and term as if they don't completely contradict eachother.

It's also clear you have no idea who Chris Tanev is
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28 oct. 2023 à 6 h 33
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Weird how you bring up his age and term as if they don't completely contradict eachother.

It's also clear you have no idea who Chris Tanev is


How do they contradict each other? Smart GMs would never, ever, consider trading a mid 1st or a 23 year old two way C for someone who is only getting worse and most definitely won't be around long term.

They moved 1sts for DeBrincat and Chychrun but both were long-term plays (at the time of the trade lol). Both were 25, not 33, Tanev might get a 1st+ from a cup contender at the deadline if you're lucky. But definitely not from Ottawa
28 oct. 2023 à 8 h 51
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How do they contradict each other? Smart GMs would never, ever, consider trading a mid 1st or a 23 year old two way C for someone who is only getting worse and most definitely won't be around long term.

They moved 1sts for DeBrincat and Chychrun but both were long-term plays (at the time of the trade lol). Both were 25, not 33, Tanev might get a 1st+ from a cup contender at the deadline if you're lucky. But definitely not from Ottawa


What 2 way C? -21 and 3rd worst +/- on his team last year isn't a 2 way C.
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28 oct. 2023 à 9 h 7
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Quoting: KingofRnR
Change the 2nd to a 1st and add JBD as a replacement RD and maybe we’d consider it 🤔

Actually, we would probably take Pinto’s Signing Rights instead of the 1st. Yes, even though he’s suspended


Wouldn't even consider moving Pinto and a 1st seems a bit rich. I'd consider a conditional 1st/2nd.
28 oct. 2023 à 12 h 14
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How do they contradict each other? Smart GMs would never, ever, consider trading a mid 1st or a 23 year old two way C for someone who is only getting worse and most definitely won't be around long term.

They moved 1sts for DeBrincat and Chychrun but both were long-term plays (at the time of the trade lol). Both were 25, not 33, Tanev might get a 1st+ from a cup contender at the deadline if you're lucky. But definitely not from Ottawa


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How do they contradict each other? Smart GMs would never, ever, consider trading a mid 1st or a 23 year old two way C for someone who is only getting worse and most definitely won't be around long term.

They moved 1sts for DeBrincat and Chychrun but both were long-term plays (at the time of the trade lol). Both were 25, not 33, Tanev might get a 1st+ from a cup contender at the deadline if you're lucky. But definitely not from Ottawa


How is he going to get worse? He's on the final year of his contract and would be a deadline addition. He literally doesn't have a chance to age poorly, thats why it's a contradiction.

I never said anything about it having to be Ottawa that trades for him. But Tanev has been without question the best defensive defenseman in the league over the past 3 years. Hence why I said he will cost a minimum of 2 2nds.

Ottawa moved a top 10 pick for DeBrincat and #12 for Chychrun, stop grouping those picks in with picks from the 22+ range
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29 oct. 2023 à 1 h 22
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Quoting: MoxNix
What 2 way C? -21 and 3rd worst +/- on his team last year isn't a 2 way C.

EV defense 68% percentile in his rookie season, after missing a full year due to injury and being thrown in a tough role with purely offensive forwards. +/- is useless, you have to look at expected goals

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
How is he going to get worse? He's on the final year of his contract and would be a deadline addition. He literally doesn't have a chance to age poorly, thats why it's a contradiction.

I never said anything about it having to be Ottawa that trades for him. But Tanev has been without question the best defensive defenseman in the league over the past 3 years. Hence why I said he will cost a minimum of 2 2nds.

Ottawa moved a top 10 pick for DeBrincat and #12 for Chychrun, stop grouping those picks in with picks from the 22+ range

He wasn't talking about Tanev's contract but more his body...

There is absolutely no chance they would consider moving Pinto for Tanev considering they wouldn't want to move for Chychrun just a few months ago

I'd love to find a way to add Tanev but I don't see how. Ottawa has not made the playoffs yet, it would be counter-productive to trade a young player for an older player, with low term too

Kubalik + Brannstron + 2nd (Flames would keep Brannstrom and sell Kubalik themselves). I love Brannstrom and he's seriously underrated but the need is on RHD. I really want someone to play with Chabot too

Sanderson - Zub
Chabot - Tanev
Chychrun - Hamonic
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