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Is the Lily era over

Créé par: BusterZXD
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 21 oct. 2023
Publié: 21 oct. 2023
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I think the lily era is over in Toronto, Washington can reunite Sandin and Lily, the swedish duo and get a first overall pick in this years draft (deep draft). I do not know the value of Jansen and this could easily be a 3 or 2nd going back to TO, or no pick at all. He seems to be ideal for the leafs and this could change the value of Jensen drastically because he is a RD.

He would be a solid improvement or Jensen but he is much older at 33.

This is good for Toronto as it adds a solid presence to the D corps and really gives u a shutdown of McCabe and Jensen.

Shoot Kampf into the moon for all I care, his time in TO is over and creates such a hole down the middle. Give holmberg a shot and shift Domi to C.

For the leaf lines, I think this is the ideal mix up front. Domi at center gives him a true role and should keep him engaged, willy provides that 3rd line the high end talent to really be lethal. Mostly O zone starts here. 2nd line is the pseudo shutdown line with some sneaky scoring potential.

This combination should help balance the ice time and gives the Leafs more scoring options assuming each player buys in. Reaves would like be swapped with Gregor or McMann, Timmins with Gio every 2 3 games ideally (Slide Brodie to LD if needed).

Is my evaluation of Jensen off? If so what would Washington want in return?
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21 oct. 2023 à 18 h 32
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Jensen is 33. Liljergren + 1st is ridiculous
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21 oct. 2023 à 18 h 38
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The 1st and 3rd are going the wrong way
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21 oct. 2023 à 18 h 59
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Jensen is 33. Liljergren + 1st is ridiculous


Quoting: Leafsfan98
The 1st and 3rd are going the wrong way


Then do timmins and a 1st. Top 4 RD isn't as cheap as you'd think.
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21 oct. 2023 à 19 h 4
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This is God awful
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21 oct. 2023 à 19 h 8
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I think the team is drastically improved...
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21 oct. 2023 à 19 h 18
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Then do timmins and a 1st. Top 4 RD isn't as cheap as you'd think.


Exactly, especially a cost controlled 24 year old one
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21 oct. 2023 à 19 h 18
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If Dubas was still around
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21 oct. 2023 à 22 h 26
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He has looked a bit off but honestly McCabe-Liligren has looked good this season. Not great but good

If we look at some key stats

McCabe-Liligren

CF 41
CA 36

SCF 23
SCA 17

XGF 2.13
XGA 1.27

HDCF 9
HDCA 5


For Comparison this was McCabe with Klingberg


CF 42
CA 49

SCF 15
SCA 26

XGF 1.94
XGA 3.26

HDCF 6
HDCA 20

McCabe got better with Liligren and the more comfortable those two get the better the defense will become
22 oct. 2023 à 20 h 36
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I thought Lillibust and Sandin were going to be the Niedermeyer and Pronger of Toronto?
23 oct. 2023 à 10 h 4
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The 1st and 3rd are going the wrong way


Jensen retained + a 1st and 3rd for Liljegren?
23 oct. 2023 à 11 h 44
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Quoting: BoringBrianMacLellan
Jensen retained + a 1st and 3rd for Liljegren?


Jensen+1st for Lilly+3rd...

Trade comp: Sandin but a RHD on a 1.4 mill contract
23 oct. 2023 à 11 h 45
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Jensen+1st for Lilly+3rd...

Trade comp: Sandin but a RHD on a 1.4 mill contract


Jensen is a much better defenseman than Gustafsson
23 oct. 2023 à 11 h 48
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Jensen+1st for Lilly+3rd...

Trade comp: Sandin but a RHD on a 1.4 mill contract


Yea Caps will hard pass on that lmfao
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23 oct. 2023 à 11 h 55
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Yea Caps will hard pass on that lmfao


Great... Leafs will keep their 24 y/o RHD
23 oct. 2023 à 11 h 55
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Jensen is a much better defenseman than Gustafsson


And Lilly is better than Sandin and the Leafs didn't give up a 3rd last time
23 oct. 2023 à 11 h 59
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And Lilly is better than Sandin and the Leafs didn't give up a 3rd last time


the skill gap between Jensen and Gustafsson is far wider than Sandin and Liljegren. Toronto might be able to get something like a Late 1st (if Washington had one) and Edmundson as a reasonable Sandin trade comp, but asking for a potential top 15 pick and a 2nd pairing defenseman with term is just setting yourself up to have your number blocked by the Capitals. And that's not even touching the fact Washington would be retaining 3.75 million over the next 3 years.
23 oct. 2023 à 12 h 25
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the skill gap between Jensen and Gustafsson is far wider than Sandin and Liljegren. Toronto might be able to get something like a Late 1st (if Washington had one) and Edmundson as a reasonable Sandin trade comp, but asking for a potential top 15 pick and a 2nd pairing defenseman with term is just setting yourself up to have your number blocked by the Capitals. And that's not even touching the fact Washington would be retaining 3.75 million over the next 3 years.


Washington doesn't have another pick? I swore they got another 1st during their firesale last year... but a 33 year old making 4 mill for 3 more years doesn't equal Lilly, let alone another 1st...
 
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