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Tampa 8th in East at Xmas break well what if

Créé par: GM_SZK
Équipe: 2023-24 Lightning de Tampa Bay
Date de création initiale: 18 oct. 2023
Publié: 18 oct. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
What if Tampa are sellers?

Will Vasi really recover this season?
Transactions
1.
TBL
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2024 (NSH)
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TBL
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
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TBL
  1. Deangelo, Anthony
  2. Morrow, Scott [Liste de réserve]
  3. Nadeau, Bradly [Liste de réserve]
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
  6. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (CAR)
CAR
  1. De Haan, Calvin
  2. Glendening, Luke
  3. Stamkos, Steven (4 250 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Carolina goes all in with help from Tampa, Stamkos waives…Tampa will not trade within division.
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  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (CGY)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (CGY)
CGY
  1. Deangelo, Anthony (837 500 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (CHI)
  3. Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
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    2. Ludvig, John
    3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (SJS)
    Détails additionnels:
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    TBL
    1. Foegele, Warren
    2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (EDM)
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      18 oct. 2023 à 18 h 57
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      I would do that
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      18 oct. 2023 à 18 h 58
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      Makes me wonder which teams are on Hedman’s 10-team list…
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      18 oct. 2023 à 19 h 10
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      This is so confusing just got the trade machine and you will have a better time doing 3 team trades.
      18 oct. 2023 à 19 h 13
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      Everyone knew they weren’t going to be good. I don’t know what Brisebois thought. Running with Tomkins when Jones Stalock Delia etc were all available. Not making the playoffs
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      18 oct. 2023 à 19 h 17
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      not a chance for that stamkos trade
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      18 oct. 2023 à 19 h 19
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      Quoting: boltsfan71
      not a chance for that stamkos trade


      Just having fun…are you saying there is a chance they are in 8th? I still have them squeezing in…but if not….
      18 oct. 2023 à 19 h 19
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      Quoting: TyeZerker
      This is so confusing just got the trade machine and you will have a better time doing 3 team trades.


      No 3 team trades…DeAngelo was flipped…
      18 oct. 2023 à 19 h 21
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      Quoting: GM_SZK
      Just having fun…are you saying there is a chance they are in 8th? I still have them squeezing in…but if not….


      I won't be surprised if they're near the bottom of the division nor do I care if they trade stamkos, I just want a better return than that
      18 oct. 2023 à 19 h 27
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      Quoting: SomeonesOffended
      I would do that


      No you wouldn’t he was literally available for free not long ago.
      18 oct. 2023 à 19 h 30
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      Quoting: boltsfan71
      I won't be surprised if they're near the bottom of the division nor do I care if they trade stamkos, I just want a better return than that


      Wow really? I thought I took too much
      2 decent prospects
      1st
      2cd
      2 3rds
      4th
      For
      Stamkos and 2 7ths

      I guess you could get more from Boston? Or another divisional rival?

      But truly if you want more trade now…
      18 oct. 2023 à 19 h 33
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      Wow really? I thought I took too much
      2 decent prospects
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      2 3rds
      4th
      For
      Stamkos and 2 7ths

      I guess you could get more from Boston? Or another divisional rival?

      But truly if you want more trade now…


      yea I just dont think its enough for arguably the best player in franchise history
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      18 oct. 2023 à 19 h 34
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      Quoting: future_gm
      No you wouldn’t he was literally available for free not long ago.


      Yeah and they didn’t take him cause he woulda went right back on waivers then Tampa coulda claimed him again and then he’s waiver exempt
      18 oct. 2023 à 19 h 36
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      Quoting: boltsfan71
      yea I just dont think its enough for arguably the best player in franchise history


      It’s not a good look, I doubt they do it…but my point if there is one is that it can be easy to recoup picks.

      What would you want?
      18 oct. 2023 à 19 h 39
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      Quoting: GM_SZK
      It’s not a good look, I doubt they do it…but my point if there is one is that it can be easy to recoup picks.

      What would you want?


      the main thing im looking for is a young proven player with top 6 potential at least, especially if they trade him now
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      18 oct. 2023 à 19 h 54
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      Quoting: boltsfan71
      the main thing im looking for is a young proven player with top 6 potential at least, especially if they trade him now


      quite literally this. If TB's trading away a quality top 6 player and one of the most important players of the franchise, you'd probably want someone that's younger and seems ready to play in the top 6, on top of that draft capital, in return too.

      De Angelo didn't work out once in TB's system, so I have a belief TB won't be interested in him again. Not saying Stamkos will waive, but Carolina's got the pieces, they're just not there in this trade.
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      18 oct. 2023 à 19 h 58
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      Quoting: boltsfan71
      the main thing im looking for is a young proven player with top 6 potential at least, especially if they trade him now


      I agree but finding the fit isn’t easy…
      18 oct. 2023 à 20 h 1
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      Quoting: Brolekb2b
      quite literally this. If TB's trading away a quality top 6 player and one of the most important players of the franchise, you'd probably want someone that's younger and seems ready to play in the top 6, on top of that draft capital, in return too.

      De Angelo didn't work out once in TB's system, so I have a belief TB won't be interested in him again. Not saying Stamkos will waive, but Carolina's got the pieces, they're just not there in this trade.


      Why would a contending team trade a young top 6 ready proven guy for an aging rental? I doubt they give up a roster guy but rather then being vague go for it…what’s the scenario?
      18 oct. 2023 à 20 h 14
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      I agree but finding the fit isn’t easy…


      if u wanna trade with Carolina im looking for necas or Jarvis
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      18 oct. 2023 à 20 h 19
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      Quoting: GM_SZK
      Why would a contending team trade a young top 6 ready proven guy for an aging rental? I doubt they give up a roster guy but rather then being vague go for it…what’s the scenario?


      I think a team like Carolina that folded during the eastern conference finals might value a player that captained two cup winning teams. It’s a GM locker room thing than an analytics thing.
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      18 oct. 2023 à 20 h 29
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      "Nope," said the Oilers
      18 oct. 2023 à 20 h 37
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      Quoting: boltsfan71
      if u wanna trade with Carolina im looking for necas or Jarvis


      No deal says they
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      18 oct. 2023 à 20 h 47
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      Canes don’t consider half of that price
      18 oct. 2023 à 20 h 54
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      Canes just drafted Nadeau, they aren’t going to move him anytime soon. And with the moves the Canes made this off-season, it looks as though Morrow isn’t available anymore.

      Stamkos is a great player, but where he is in his career right now, I don’t think he would be the best fit for the Canes.
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      18 oct. 2023 à 21 h 12
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      And Tampa still finishes second in Atlantic
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      18 oct. 2023 à 21 h 12
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      Quoting: GM_SZK
      Why would a contending team trade a young top 6 ready proven guy for an aging rental? I doubt they give up a roster guy but rather then being vague go for it…what’s the scenario?


      Honestly the best thing i can think of that might possibly match a Stamkos trade is the Giroux trade with Owen Tippet going back to the Flyers, with a conditional first and third. Precedent might be similar, and I think Carolina has some decent pieces.

      Unless things I changed I remember Necas being involved in a lot of rumors last season, so TB might try and target him if he's still an option and available.
      Since Carolina doesn't have an AHL affiliate/no AHL system, futures of guys like Gunler, Rees, etc are all being thrown on loan, so why not move one or two of those guys out for a guy that can impact the roster like Stamkos would, especially if retention is involved.

      If Carolina would be willing to move Necas (and with Waddell/Canes generally being cheap), freeing up Necas' 3M hit and sending it to TB plus a prospect, or some combination of a conditional first and a third or at the very least something similar to a Giroux type deal doesn't really seem crazy. At least to me, but there have been stranger ideas on this website hah
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