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Would this get a Pinto deal done

Créé par: LikeABoss
Équipe: 2023-24 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 2 oct. 2023
Publié: 2 oct. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
This gets Ottawa an extra $2.3M and Lyon at $450k would be pretty sick

Also Compher and Ras looked good together so far
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  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (TBL)
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*Becomes a 6th if Reimer starts 20 games
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  1. Forsberg, Anton
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (DET)
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  1. Lyon, Alex (450 000 $ retained)
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2 oct. 2023 à 20 h 27
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Michael Rasmussen is good with anyone
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I don’t see the sens moving Forsberg he’s very good
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2 oct. 2023 à 20 h 39
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I think you can remove the retention on Lyon and it’s still fair
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2 oct. 2023 à 20 h 41
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Is that the most expensive 3rd line in the league... 🤔
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2 oct. 2023 à 20 h 44
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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
I think you can remove the retention on Lyon and it’s still fair


I agree, but it frees up enough for ~$2.4M for Pinto vs ~$1.95M. I also thought Sens fans would be intrigued by Lyon at $450k for 2 seasons
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2 oct. 2023 à 20 h 45
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I agree, but it frees up enough for ~$2.4M for Pinto vs ~$1.95M. I also thought Sens fans would be intrigued by Lyon at $450k for 2 seasons

If there is retention I think it’s pretty fair to ask a third and even a second instead of the fourth
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2 oct. 2023 à 20 h 48
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Is that the most expensive 3rd line in the league... 🤔


top-5 3rd line, though
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2 oct. 2023 à 20 h 55
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Quoting: LikeABoss
I agree, but it frees up enough for ~$2.4M for Pinto vs ~$1.95M. I also thought Sens fans would be intrigued by Lyon at $450k for 2 seasons


Not really. Forsberg has fit in and looked good with a larger sample size. He and Korpisalo would provide a good tandem, which Sens have lacked for years.

Sens need stable goaltending more than a 3C, which they can sign by moving other, less critical pieces. Lyon can maybe pick up where he left off, or he may not. Sens can't count on that. They know and like Forsberg, and his contract is reasonable.

I also don't think Yzerman is the type of person to trade a FA he just signed before the season even starts. Not a great move for a team to make.
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2 oct. 2023 à 21 h 8
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Not really. Forsberg has fit in and looked good with a larger sample size. He and Korpisalo would provide a good tandem, which Sens have lacked for years.

Sens need stable goaltending more than a 3C, which they can sign by moving other, less critical pieces. Lyon can maybe pick up where he left off, or he may not. Sens can't count on that. They know and like Forsberg, and his contract is reasonable.

I also don't think Yzerman is the type of person to trade a FA he just signed before the season even starts. Not a great move for a team to make.


Understandable. I was just trying something off the beaten path with this trade.

I'm not saying Forsberg is bad, but I think it would be fair to put him in the same ballpark as Reimer and Lyon. From the Wings perspective this would maybe be a slight upgrade, for an extra 4th and a pretty substantial cap hit for 2 seasons...
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2 oct. 2023 à 21 h 12
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Is that the most expensive 3rd line in the league... 🤔


What's the point?
2 oct. 2023 à 21 h 22
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laugh If Detroit sells at the deadline, We sure aren't retaining on two cheap contracts like Lyon and Reimer. We'd be retaining on Perron and Gostisbehere more than likely.
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2 oct. 2023 à 21 h 55
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Quoting: LikeABoss
Understandable. I was just trying something off the beaten path with this trade.

I'm not saying Forsberg is bad, but I think it would be fair to put him in the same ballpark as Reimer and Lyon. From the Wings perspective this would maybe be a slight upgrade, for an extra 4th and a pretty substantial cap hit for 2 seasons...


Understandable, and as a Sens fan, I appreciated not seeing a Joseph trade for the millionth time smile
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2 oct. 2023 à 22 h 23
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I don’t see the sens moving Forsberg he’s very good


He's as good as Husso is it would be a 1A and 1B.
2 oct. 2023 à 22 h 33
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Is that the most expensive 3rd line in the league... 🤔


$14.375M it could be but I don't see Perron spending a lot of time on the 3rd line. He was second is scoring on the Wings last season and if Yzerman plans trading him at the TDL the better he does the more valuable he is.
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2 oct. 2023 à 23 h 36
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I don’t see the sens moving Forsberg he’s very good

Not only he's good (I'd say the most underrated goalie in 2 forums) but he's the reason why Korpisalo signed in Ottawa. How would it look if you trade Forsberg now?
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How are you going to trade Perron, Fischer, Sprong, and Gostisbehere at the deadline when you have no retentions slots left?
 
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