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Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 17 heures
Sujet: More ideas for a Kane contract
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lancebmx</b></div><div>The contract negotiations aren't a reason why he would be traded. Verbeek basically said he wants Zegras to be a better player away from the puck. Zegras mentioned that he is working on that. Once he improves there, he will likely get a big long term extension when this contract is up.
Yzerman, like Verbeek since they are buddies, likes two way players. That's why he drafted Danielson and Kasper.
Chicago got 7th overall plus more for Debrincat. Just "two first round picks" is not the same.</div></div>

I'll certainly need to delete this post if (WHEN!) Detroit wins the draft lottery and moves up to 5th... :awesome

I think it's closer than you think though, I think the value of 15 and 32 is ~7th overall, and it just goes up from there in value, if you wrongly assume Detroit doesn't win the cup next season.
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 17 heures
Sujet: More ideas for a Kane contract
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lancebmx</b></div><div>Neither of those players from Philly we should target, our team isn't good enough to go big game hunting. Trading top prospects/ picks will shorten our window, which hasn't even been opened yet. I could maybe see a world where Risto is a target for cheap with a bit of retention but he's not that good.
I have no issue with Ferraro but Wallinder could be better than him by the end of next season. I do like how physical and defensive play though. I do believe we need to be more physical and better defensively.
Can't just LTIR a guy if he isn't hurt and he'll want to play if he can. I'm pretty sure he would be okay with a shorter term deal, he knows his situation.
This team is really frustrating as a fan. Rebuilds take so long and this one is no exception. If we start trading picks and prospects for aging players, we will never be a contender and just be doomed as a borderline playoff team.</div></div>

I just mentioned the Philly thing to say 2 firsts seems like a fair starting place for a Zegras deal. As for the Kane thing, only he can decide when to pull the plug, but I'm sure there's some "coaching" from the guys with medical PhDs. Either way he's not making his condition better by playing more games...

I'm not even suggesting fowl play, just that Kane is a smart hockey guy, and probably understands the rules that the NHL general managers have to follow. Maybe you could say he's more concerned about the letters on the back of his sweater than the logo on the front, but he's certainly a smart guy and he knows how the salary cap rules work.
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 18 heures
Sujet: More ideas for a Kane contract
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jded</b></div><div>Ughhhh. Sure I’ll go with the first 10 that come to mind and cut myself off there
1. ANA has zero reason to trade Zegras unless they land an NHL ready LHC, for which they have only an 11.5% chance
2. ANA’s one an only RHD under contract is Gudas
3. Gudas has played so well for ANA he’s a legitimate (though not super highly likely) candidate for the C this offseason. He’s loved by every fan, player, coach, etc
4. The Ducks are loaded with middle 6 and bottom 4 D prospects. Their needs are 1RD and top 6 RW prospects. Not a single asset here is likely to fill any of those holes
5. Verbeek outright said he wants to push for playoff contention next year. A Zegras and Gudas trade is a huge step back, not to mention the best piece coming in being a draft pick that won’t meaningfully help the team for like 3 years
6. You had the gall to think Gudas is going to get RETAINED(!!) $2M for 2 more years
7. Undoubtedly the deepest position on ANA is LHD (Mintyukov, Zellweger, Lacombe, Vaak, Lageson, Hinds, Dionicio). You added 2(!!!) LHD
8. It’s already been widely reported that Yzerman wasn’t interested in Zegras
9. The rumors around Zegras in general were shut down months ago, because they were baseless to begin with. The dude who threw it out there is the same one who said definitively that Gibson played his last game in ANA.. at the end of last season. His argument was basically ‘Drysdale got traded, he’s buddies with Zegras, maybe Zegras is next’. The moment someone in the media actually dug in, multiple insiders shared ‘Verbeek was never looking to move Zegras, and has not once brought his name up in a trade discussion’
10. The quantity over quality approach doesn’t work when the opposing team actually has leverage. DET has plenty of pieces ANA would actually value (ASP, Danielson). If the Ducks tried to get Seider for a ‘25 1st, ‘26 1st, and a bunch of fillers, what would you think?</div></div>

I think there are potentially more reasons to trade him that you want to consider, but that's more of a mental block than a real reason to not trade him. I'd say his contentious contract negotiations is at least 1 reason...

I get all your stuff about Gudas, I figured every player you got was younger than Gudas, and on an expiring deal except Walman who has the same term as Gudas left. They can all be flipped for probably more than Gudas with retention, but since you guys expect to make the playoffs next season I can see why that wouldn't have much value... I look forward to the Ducks getting an additional 32+ points next season!

Anything reported about Yzerman's thoughts on a player is probably a lie unless you have a direct quote to reference or video of him saying it. He's kind of known for running a very tight ship.

Again 2 first round picks seems like more than what Chicago got for DeBrincat. That's a real trade that happened. I think your hypothetical about Seider doesn't help your argument, because while I'd certainly entertain ANA's next 2 first round picks for Seider, along with whatever you want to throw in, I'd have to do a bit more digging to see who's in this year's draft and next year's. Granted the main reason is ANA's next 2 1st round picks are quite a bit more valuable than Detroit's
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 18 heures
Sujet: More ideas for a Kane contract
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lancebmx</b></div><div>First mistake is thinking this article has any weight. Alot of these writers don't know **** about fcuk. None of the pieces mentioned in that article would likely have any interest to Anaheim other than slight add ons. Reference the Drysdale - Gauthier trade as reference. That's what Anaheim will be looking for, high end young assets not depth players and mid picks. Berggren wouldn't hold much value to them, they have other similar players, he isn't anything special. He is skilled and has shown potential and that's why we also shouldn't trade him. Ducks also currently have 5 left handed defensemen on the roster, Walman doesn't have any value to them.
Ferraro &gt; Walman is debatable but why do it? Walman plays well with Seider and is a good and cheap stop gap for Edvinsson. Why mess with that?
If Patrick Kane wants 5 years, we should stay far away. Could be still be good then? Sure. But the risk is much higher than the reward. Will it suck to see him play elsewhere? Yes. If he doesn't want to sign a reasonable deal then let him walk, it's not worth the cap implications of the future. Chicago wouldn't be trading for him either.</div></div>

Fair, I also heard Konecny and Ristolainen might be on the table for a Zegras deal. I'm not sure what 2 1st round picks is worth, but just starting there, I think you'd be close to a fair trade with Philly.

Ferraro is a reliable shutdown D that can eat a bunch of minutes regardless of who his partner is. Walman is okay with Seider, but I think Edvinsson should be on the top pair. Ferraro would probably benefit from less minutes/wear and tear from physical play, and would be the perfect insulation to protect Sandin Pellikka. I think that would be a lot more utility with a top 4 of Edvinsson Seider, Ferraro SDP, than with Walman Seider, Edvinsson SDP.

Kane can be LTIRetired too if he starts to fall off. He has a legit issue that will likely only impede him more as he continues to play. They could also LTIR him and add some big fish at the TDL, just so Kane can be fresh for the start of the playoffs:cool I think a lower AAV longer term contract might be the better route, especially with the cap going up.
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 20 heures
Sujet: More ideas for a Kane contract
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GeneralLandro</b></div><div>A couple things Anaheim has zero interest in: 1. Any of those players you’re sending over 2. Trading Radko Gudas 3. Mid round picks for Zegras

We pass</div></div>

I was kinda guessing, not really a huge fan of Zegras but I love Gudas. I was going off a random article I found for a ballpark:

https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/what_would_be_the_potential_trade_value_of_trevor_zegras_to_the_canadiens/s1_17203_39928766

I figured Burger + Walman &gt; Farrell + Harris, and the picks are also comparable. From the Wing's perspective I was thinking Kane might be able to rekindle Zegras' game, but personally I wouldn't want Stevie to bet the farm on Zegras.

I was more focused on the Kane part, I read something about him wanting term, which Stevie has been averse to doing. Thanks for the feedback though!
Forum: Armchair-GM12 févr. à 17 h 14
Sujet: Burger for Bam Bam
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TMarch</b></div><div>No chance even DET does this. Boqvist = ASP, and isn't like the rest of the core Dman squad (look at Seider, Edvinsson, Johansson, Gibson are all over 6'2, while ASP is 5'11). I liken Boqvist to Anders Eriksson, who Stevie knows well. Jenner is a good piece, but where would he play? He wouldn't play on the 2nd line over Perron, Kane, Compher, and the 3rd line with Ras/Copp/Fischer are crushing it. You aren't paying a 1st round pick and a good prospect for a 4th liner unless you know you are going to contend for the finals, and that piece would put you over the top. Jenner wouldn't put DET over the top.

I suspect DET will sit still, maybe move Reimer for a late round pick. Berggren stays this year, and Steve gives him a guarantee to make the squad next year full time.</div></div>

Boqvist is just a throw in. Jenner plays a lot of minutes for CBJ. I think he'd fit in well on the first line, but they could move him wherever really. He's a really good utility with a similar pace as Perron, so I could see him on the 2nd line also. He would be able to slide into the 3rd line seamlessly for anyone of the current players, and would likely be an upgrade. I think it would be a waste to put him on the 4th line, but he'd do it and not complain if that's what was needed.
Forum: Armchair-GM12 févr. à 14 h 56
Sujet: Burger for Bam Bam
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CaseyFlyman</b></div><div>CBJ decline, for a number of reasons:

1) Jenner currently isn't available. (But we'll assume he becomes available once Jarmo is fired)
2) We're not about to retain on Boqvist
3) No interest in Kostin, he's looking like a career AHL-NHL tweener (and we have plenty)
4) Not high on Berggren, a slightly undersized winger who is riding a 38.6% xGF% vs. a 70% actual on-ice GF% and a career shooting % about 5% above NHL-average smells like danger. Plenty of AHL points producers don't pan out at the NHL level, I'm thinking he may be one of them.
5) Even if we were high on Berggren, it's still lacking as a total return for Jenner, then Boqvist is probably around a mid-round pick in value.</div></div>

I was originally thinking Fabbri + Kostin + Burger + 1st, which doesn't require any retention, but think Red Wings fans would balk. Kostin is a solid bottom 6 banger, and is only 24, but calling him a tweener is fair. Berggren is only 23 and IS an NHL player, but isn't going to get a spot this season because GR has a shot at making the playoffs and the Wings needed to carry 3 goalies all season... Berggren should be playing in the NHL this season, but Detroit is doing Detroit things with their prospects because he didn't need waivers to go up and down...

I think Jenner should finish his career with CBJ, but he'd be a good fit on any line in Detroit.
Forum: Armchair-GM7 déc. 2023 à 18 h 34
Sujet: Walkrot Ferrattinder
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SharkTank</b></div><div>Yeah you know more than Steve Yzerman does. 🙄

Wouldn't it be easier to say you don't like Wallinder? 🤔

You're entitled to your opinion but at least be honest about it.</div></div>
LOL, oh Stevie said he's destined to play with Seider, I must have missed that one, send me a link if ya find it.

How did you gather that from anything I said? In fact it's quite the opposite, I think he has some qualities that everyone can recognize as valuable, and I think he obviously has some areas he needs to improve in if he's in the AHL right now. I think that combination makes him valuable in a trade right now, and also think there's obviously risk with keeping him, and the team could do some damage right now with players that can play for them right now.

I don't know more than Stevie, but how much do you want to bet that "CoachCoach" isn't Stevie? How much do you want to bet that I might know more than CoachCoach or you for that matter? Granted I don't care either way and hope you don't either

In all seriousness I like the team name so I have to defend it, especially if people want to engage in debate. Simple as that brother
Forum: Armchair-GM7 déc. 2023 à 18 h 12
Sujet: Walkrot Ferrattinder
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CoachCoach</b></div><div>Oh he is very slender. The NHL however is becoming more and more about speed and players that can do it all/multi-dimensional.

Once he fills out (Hook him up with Raymond’s trainer) he could be the perfect partner for Seider.
Wallinder-Seider
Edvinsson-ASP
Walman-

Then hope for the best with at least 1-2 of the following prospects in case things play out differently (regression/injuries/contracts/cap/roster)

Albert J-Anton J
Cleveland-Tuomisto
Buium-Gibson</div></div>

From the little bit I saw, I can't see him in an offensive D role in the NHL, hopefully I'm wrong, but I just don't think he sees the game at that level. You might say well that's why they teach and develop, but I'd point out that jocks aren't typically stereotyped as quick learners. I'm not a fan of your top 5 blueline cuz I don't agree the league is going that way. Who's the last cup champion that had only 1 D-man who hits on the blueline? Expand that to cup finalists or even conference finalists if you'd like, I'm just curious to see your work on that one.

I don't disagree with you on the size thing, I think he covers a lot of ice more because he skates really well and happens to have a longer stick, but he doesn't play "big" though. I'd say it's definately worth a shot putting him out there with Seider if he ever makes the big club, but he is definitely still a project. Don't get me wrong though his skating is very tantalizing, if they can get him to improve his anticipation and decision making I could see that high of a ceiling for him.
Forum: Armchair-GM7 déc. 2023 à 17 h 4
Sujet: Walkrot Ferrattinder
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jfstompers</b></div><div>Who do you think Mario Ferraro is?</div></div>
He'd be a massive upgrade on the role Yzerman was trying to fill with Chiarot. It's a team game after all and I think only going after the "best" player gets you the Dubas Maple Leafs.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>yikes</b></div><div>Ferraros awesome but Yzerman would have to be kidnapped for this to happen and Grier would be cheering like child on Christmas.</div></div>
Okay Okay I get it, honestly I haven't looked at other posts to gauge a fair value, I just know he's a gamer if he's close to leading the league in hits and blocked shots at his age, I don't see an issue with this price but obviously everyone agrees I'm overpaying. I still think it would be a great pickup

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>Are you sure Detroit is your favorite team???????????</div></div>
2nd favorite, my first favorite has to be the Harlem Globetrotters! They have a pretty decent record as of late ;)
Forum: Armchair-GM18 nov. 2023 à 8 h 20
Sujet: We might be broke soon
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PuzzledActuary</b></div><div>Legitimately one of the dumbest rebuttals I've ever heard.</div></div>

This must be another etymological issue, where I'm assuming you mean "devastating" when you say "dumbest". Kind of like your definition of "fringe player" means "4th line player" right?

You make an excellent point, it's pretty devastating when a hypothetical 8 year deal for Abs would have been cheaper than the 14 years of $30M contracts and buyout he did get. Thanks for your kind feedback! :squinty

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PuzzledActuary</b></div><div>You're not watching if you think he's playing like a $6M player...</div></div>

We agree here too, he's playing more like a $6.9M x 6yr player, aka 3rd year Willy Nylander, and will likely be paid as such. :cool