SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

Ducks jerseys are the worst

Créé par: MaxBorjshlapsky
Équipe: 2023-24 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 23 sept. 2023
Publié: 23 sept. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Why cant you just offer sheet zegras, he signs the contract, ducks have to match it and if they don't then he's gone wouldn't that be a easier way to get him on your team? If you trade for his rights it could be ok if the ducks agree but if you offer sheet you force the ducks hand without even dealing with them directly.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
47 000 000 $
Transactions
BUF
  1. Zegras, Trevor [Droits de RFA]
ANA
  1. Bryson, Jacob
  2. Peterka, John-Jason
  3. Stillman, Riley
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (BUF)
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (BUF)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
2025
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de MIN
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de NSH
2026
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $78 592 737 $0 $4 537 500 $4 907 263 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
7 142 857 $7 142 857 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
7 100 000 $7 100 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 7
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance412 500 $$412K)
C, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
3 333 333 $3 333 333 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance925 000 $$925K)
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
916 667 $916 667 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
837 500 $837 500 $
G
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
4 285 714 $4 285 714 $
DG
UFA - 7
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
775 000 $775 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
G
UFA - 1

Code d'intégration

  • Pour afficher cette équipe sur un autre site Web ou blog, ajoutez ce iFrame à la page appropriée
  • Personnalisez les dimensions dans le code IFrame ci-dessous pour adapter votre site de manière appropriée. Minimum recommandé: 400px.

Texte intégré

Cliquer pour surligner
23 sept. 2023 à 5 h 55
#1
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2019
Messages: 38,809
Mentions "j'aime": 19,872
He has to actually sign the contract, and no one's going to offer him a deal that walks him directly to UFA
23 sept. 2023 à 6 h 34
#2
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2019
Messages: 6,302
Mentions "j'aime": 3,045
Because the Ducks have more than enough space to match whatever offer sheet they make so they'd have to just massively overpay both the player and the Ducks. If you are going to offer sheet Zegras a fair amount just to see him paid fairly, it was detrimental to you to get involved in the first place.
23 sept. 2023 à 7 h 25
#3
Michael_Peca
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 453
Mentions "j'aime": 207
I know this was a rumor from a few days ago but I just don't buy it. The Sabres are not in need of a center. They have Thompson and Cozens locked up long term to be 1C and 2C. Beyond that they have Krebs, Mittelstadt and top prospects. To give up a bunch of assets for a talented young C, seems like other teams will beat their offer by a mile. Boston would give up the farm for Zegras, he's their 1C day 1. That's just not where the Sabres are at. Personally, I'd much rather have Thompson and Cozens on those deals than Zegras.
gretzkyghosts a aimé ceci.
23 sept. 2023 à 8 h 39
#4
Sabres fan
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2020
Messages: 5,012
Mentions "j'aime": 3,094
Quoting: RobbieS
I know this was a rumor from a few days ago but I just don't buy it. The Sabres are not in need of a center. They have Thompson and Cozens locked up long term to be 1C and 2C. Beyond that they have Krebs, Mittelstadt and top prospects. To give up a bunch of assets for a talented young C, seems like other teams will beat their offer by a mile. Boston would give up the farm for Zegras, he's their 1C day 1. That's just not where the Sabres are at. Personally, I'd much rather have Thompson and Cozens on those deals than Zegras.

I understand your point, and in general I agree, Buffalo doesn’t really need Trevor Zegras anyway. But Boston in particular has nothing for prospects. Their farm system is practically bone dry which I find hilarious. Yes, they have a couple top end prospects, but they need them to play right now so they can stay under the cap.
sabres89 et gretzkyghosts a aimé ceci.
23 sept. 2023 à 10 h 15
#5
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: févr. 2017
Messages: 8,368
Mentions "j'aime": 6,317
Quoting: Tjm220
I understand your point, and in general I agree, Buffalo doesn’t really need Trevor Zegras anyway. But Boston in particular has nothing for prospects. Their farm system is practically bone dry which I find hilarious. Yes, they have a couple top end prospects, but they need them to play right now so they can stay under the cap.


I was gonna say pretty much that about the Bruins. That's what happens in a flat cap league, where you have been very good for years, and you can't be guaranteed high end talent outside of the top 5-10 picks in the draft. The Sabres are gonna be linked to all the shiny toys for a bit, lots of high end prospects and at least some cap room. If you are selling a talented young player, Buffalo should be your first call.
gretzkyghosts, Tjm220, MaxBorjshlapsky and 1 other person a aimé ceci.
23 sept. 2023 à 15 h 56
#6
Démarrer sujet
Bulklav Jr.Star 03
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2022
Messages: 1,751
Mentions "j'aime": 262
Quoting: Byrr
Because the Ducks have more than enough space to match whatever offer sheet they make so they'd have to just massively overpay both the player and the Ducks. If you are going to offer sheet Zegras a fair amount just to see him paid fairly, it was detrimental to you to get involved in the first place.


That's not at all the point I'm trying to make, what I'm trying to say is offering 6-7M which I think is fair seems to be what Anaheim is not willing to give zegras so by only giving a 1st and a third or a first second and third but keeping all your current players is it not worth it sorry at first I offered 6.15M so that's a first and a third and you would assume Anaheim is not matching because if they idea is they have so much cap space then why is it reported that he has been offered in the 3M ballpark? And if they force Anaheim to match the price I actually believe it's a bit of a power move like I don't understand why organizations don't use tools available to force teams into decisions they seem reluctant to make because even if it seems a bit dirty you are still getting a leg up on that team
23 sept. 2023 à 16 h 6
#7
Démarrer sujet
Bulklav Jr.Star 03
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2022
Messages: 1,751
Mentions "j'aime": 262
Quoting: Tjm220
I understand your point, and in general I agree, Buffalo doesn’t really need Trevor Zegras anyway. But Boston in particular has nothing for prospects. Their farm system is practically bone dry which I find hilarious. Yes, they have a couple top end prospects, but they need them to play right now so they can stay under the cap.


Quoting: sabres89
I was gonna say pretty much that about the Bruins. That's what happens in a flat cap league, where you have been very good for years, and you can't be guaranteed high end talent outside of the top 5-10 picks in the draft. The Sabres are gonna be linked to all the shiny toys for a bit, lots of high end prospects and at least some cap room. If you are selling a talented young player, Buffalo should be your first call.


As a fan of the NHL I can't express how much more I'd rather watch zegras on a good hockey team in nyr or buffalo than in Anaheim especially after what's going on right now...selling good young prospects for a superstar is absolutely reasonable and I think Buffalo's in the perfect spot to do it...I don't know how you can deny having zegras on that team.
sabres89 a aimé ceci.
23 sept. 2023 à 16 h 32
#8
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: févr. 2017
Messages: 8,368
Mentions "j'aime": 6,317
Quoting: MaxBorjshlapsky
As a fan of the NHL I can't express how much more I'd rather watch zegras on a good hockey team in nyr or buffalo than in Anaheim especially after what's going on right now...selling good young prospects for a superstar is absolutely reasonable and I think Buffalo's in the perfect spot to do it...I don't know how you can deny having zegras on that team.


I think for me, pettersson is a lot more interesting, obviously the cost would be more. I look at what the Sabres have vs what they need, pettersson is selke caliber 100 point center (for me, the emphasis is on selke caliber, we have several young centers who could develop into defensively responsible, but pettersson is already elite). I'm not sure where zegras would fit, is he a center in buffalo, we have offensive centers, does zegras stay at center or move to the wing? With the talent the Sabres have coming, paying a boatload to acquire him, and then sign him to a lucrative extension, I'm just not sure I'd be aggressively targeting him. No disrespect, I don't think the juice is worth the squeeze.
23 sept. 2023 à 16 h 40
#9
Démarrer sujet
Bulklav Jr.Star 03
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2022
Messages: 1,751
Mentions "j'aime": 262
Quoting: sabres89
I think for me, pettersson is a lot more interesting, obviously the cost would be more. I look at what the Sabres have vs what they need, pettersson is selke caliber 100 point center (for me, the emphasis is on selke caliber, we have several young centers who could develop into defensively responsible, but pettersson is already elite). I'm not sure where zegras would fit, is he a center in buffalo, we have offensive centers, does zegras stay at center or move to the wing? With the talent the Sabres have coming, paying a boatload to acquire him, and then sign him to a lucrative extension, I'm just not sure I'd be aggressively targeting him. No disrespect, I don't think the juice is worth the squeeze.


That's where it doesn't end up making sense I'll explain zegras is perfect as a secondary guy to Thompson the problem with Petterson is he is always going to want to be the first option so you have confusion between first option minutes with Thompson and Petterson so IMO their production and utilization suffers but with zegras it's more obvious that he is the second option to Thompson there will be no battle for who is the lead guy

And on top of all that Petterson will not go to buffalo to make $7M he is going to be looking for a 10+ per year contract I would guarantee that as I said he will want to be the first option so that's what he will be seeking

That is the way I see it I'm not saying that is for sure what the situation is but it's how I see it.
sabres89 a aimé ceci.
23 sept. 2023 à 17 h 56
#10
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2019
Messages: 6,302
Mentions "j'aime": 3,045
Quoting: MaxBorjshlapsky
That's not at all the point I'm trying to make, what I'm trying to say is offering 6-7M which I think is fair seems to be what Anaheim is not willing to give zegras so by only giving a 1st and a third or a first second and third but keeping all your current players is it not worth it sorry at first I offered 6.15M so that's a first and a third and you would assume Anaheim is not matching because if they idea is they have so much cap space then why is it reported that he has been offered in the 3M ballpark? And if they force Anaheim to match the price I actually believe it's a bit of a power move like I don't understand why organizations don't use tools available to force teams into decisions they seem reluctant to make because even if it seems a bit dirty you are still getting a leg up on that team


How is this any different from the Aho situation? Carolina wasn't offering Aho money, Montreal made an offer sheet which was a more than reasonable cost for him, Carolina matched without even thinking twice and then Montreal paid the price in having their own guys offer sheeted by a team with more cap flexibility a few seasons later. It's the perfect encapsulation of everything you just said.
23 sept. 2023 à 18 h 29
#11
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: févr. 2018
Messages: 1,532
Mentions "j'aime": 772
Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
He has to actually sign the contract, and no one's going to offer him a deal that walks him directly to UFA


He's from NY and obviously not happy with ANA. I'd offer the max 5 years. So, there is someone. 5 years is a lot.
gretzkyghosts a aimé ceci.
23 sept. 2023 à 18 h 46
#12
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2019
Messages: 38,809
Mentions "j'aime": 19,872
Quoting: worldwidesensei
He's from NY and obviously not happy with ANA. I'd offer the max 5 years. So, there is someone. 5 years is a lot.


How much are you willing to offer him on a year deal? 7-7.5M is probably what he is willing to take on a bridge deal as he will almost certainly be a 9M+ player by the time it ends
23 sept. 2023 à 18 h 51
#13
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: févr. 2018
Messages: 1,532
Mentions "j'aime": 772
Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
How much are you willing to offer him on a year deal? 7-7.5M is probably what he is willing to take on a bridge deal as he will almost certainly be a 9M+ player by the time it ends


No need to give up assets for a 1-yr deal. No thanks.
gretzkyghosts a aimé ceci.
23 sept. 2023 à 19 h 35
#14
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2019
Messages: 38,809
Mentions "j'aime": 19,872
Quoting: worldwidesensei
No need to give up assets for a 1-yr deal. No thanks.


That was a typo, i meant 5 year deal
23 sept. 2023 à 20 h 37
#15
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: févr. 2018
Messages: 1,532
Mentions "j'aime": 772
Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
That was a typo, i meant 5 year deal


5yrs x $7mm ... could go higher but I'd like to keep him below Cozens.
4yrs x $7mm is cool too.
23 sept. 2023 à 21 h 4
#16
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2019
Messages: 38,809
Mentions "j'aime": 19,872
Quoting: worldwidesensei
5yrs x $7mm ... could go higher but I'd like to keep him below Cozens.
4yrs x $7mm is cool too.


He's not going to sign 5 years at 7M. He is far more proven than Cozens was when Cozens signed that deal. The only reason he should sign anything less than 8M is if its a 2-3 year deal to cash in more later
24 sept. 2023 à 11 h 10
#17
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: févr. 2018
Messages: 1,532
Mentions "j'aime": 772
Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
He's not going to sign 5 years at 7M. He is far more proven than Cozens was when Cozens signed that deal. The only reason he should sign anything less than 8M is if its a 2-3 year deal to cash in more later


Then don't need him. ANA is apparently offering $3-4MM. He can sulk and cry while he learns how to play a 2-way game.

And proven what? That he is a trick-shot artist that can't play D?
gretzkyghosts a aimé ceci.
24 sept. 2023 à 12 h 4
#18
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2019
Messages: 38,809
Mentions "j'aime": 19,872
Quoting: worldwidesensei
Then don't need him. ANA is apparently offering $3-4MM. He can sulk and cry while he learns how to play a 2-way game.

And proven what? That he is a trick-shot artist that can't play D?


Huh? He's fine defensively. Pretty strange argument
24 sept. 2023 à 16 h 37
#19
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: févr. 2018
Messages: 1,532
Mentions "j'aime": 772
Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Huh? He's fine defensively. Pretty strange argument


77 takeaways to 158 giveaways...is not fine.
gretzkyghosts a aimé ceci.
24 sept. 2023 à 17 h 19
#20
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2019
Messages: 38,809
Mentions "j'aime": 19,872
Quoting: worldwidesensei
77 takeaways to 158 giveaways...is not fine.


Giveaway and takeaway counts are not a reliable tell for defensive play lol. It's a better tell of who has the puck the most

This is a reliable tell for defensive play
zx3tcUz.png
 
Répondre
To create a post please Login or S'inscrire
Question:
Options:
Ajouter une option
Soumettre le sondage