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Créé par: WN88
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 6 sept. 2023
Publié: 6 sept. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Hanifin, Noah (2 450 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (FLA)
2.
PHI
  1. Robertson, Nicholas
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (FLA)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2026 (TOR)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (TOR)
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2024
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Logo de OTT
2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2183 500 000 $80 222 417 $0 $0 $3 277 583 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
800 000 $800 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 550 000 $3 550 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
-1 212 500 $-1 212 500 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
766 667 $766 667 $
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 687 500 $4 687 500 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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6 sept. 2023 à 0 h 47
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Talk about a ****ing over pay for konecny
6 sept. 2023 à 0 h 48
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Talk about a ****ing over pay for konecny


rather overpay than deal w philly fans
6 sept. 2023 à 0 h 51
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rather overpay than deal w philly fans


Eh u got a point 😂
6 sept. 2023 à 0 h 52
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rather overpay than deal w philly fans


Just do what I do. Make a reasonable trade or at least attempt to. AND THEN ignore the Philly fans who want 47 1st round picks for Laughton.

remove one 1st round pick from that Philly trade and it's fair.

I suspect Calgary says no to that trade also. Leafs would need to add a 3rd at minimum and there would have to be no retention from Calgary.

Although if Calgary starts selling their UFAS, I don't think they should target more pending UFAS.
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6 sept. 2023 à 2 h 18
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Just do what I do. Make a reasonable trade or at least attempt to. AND THEN ignore the Philly fans who want 47 1st round picks for Laughton.

remove one 1st round pick from that Philly trade and it's fair.


This is all entirely fanciful, to put it very politely. A deferred late 1st, essentially zero value Robertson and a 3rd gets beaten to a pulp by half the league.
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6 sept. 2023 à 6 h 58
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
Just do what I do. Make a reasonable trade or at least attempt to. AND THEN ignore the Philly fans who want 47 1st round picks for Laughton.

remove one 1st round pick from that Philly trade and it's fair.

I suspect Calgary says no to that trade also. Leafs would need to add a 3rd at minimum and there would have to be no retention from Calgary.

Although if Calgary starts selling their UFAS, I don't think they should target more pending UFAS.


There is no reasonable trade for a Philly fan. It has to be a completely devastating win for them to deem fair.
6 sept. 2023 à 7 h 50
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Flames can't afford him without retaining on Hanifin how do they make the trade with retention
6 sept. 2023 à 8 h 15
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Can't we just do Fraser, a 1st, and a 2nd or 3rd? Robertson is never healthy so his trade value is near nothing.
6 sept. 2023 à 8 h 23
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Negative
6 sept. 2023 à 10 h 16
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There is no reasonable trade for a Philly fan. It has to be a completely devastating win for them to deem fair.



It's like ray-ee-aaaaaaaiiiiinnnnn...

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6 sept. 2023 à 11 h 16
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
Just do what I do. Make a reasonable trade or at least attempt to. AND THEN ignore the Philly fans who want 47 1st round picks for Laughton.

remove one 1st round pick from that Philly trade and it's fair.

I suspect Calgary says no to that trade also. Leafs would need to add a 3rd at minimum and there would have to be no retention from Calgary.

Although if Calgary starts selling their UFAS, I don't think they should target more pending UFAS.


wait why would retention matter to Calgary? Hanifin's contract is up next year, also the reason Philly fans want a lot for Konecny is that he really doesn't have to be traded at this point, he's got 3 years left at 5.5, and Briere has said it'd take a lot for them to consider trading him, 2 late firsts and prospect is good in my eyes
6 sept. 2023 à 11 h 27
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wait why would retention matter to Calgary? Hanifin's contract is up next year, also the reason Philly fans want a lot for Konecny is that he really doesn't have to be traded at this point, he's got 3 years left at 5.5, and Briere has said it'd take a lot for them to consider trading him, 2 late firsts and prospect is good in my eyes


Calgary can't make that trade with their current cap situation. If Calgary SELLS their pending UFA's for picks and prospects, they will retain because that means they aren't competing this year.

IF they make this trade for Nylander, it implies they are going for it, since he is also a pending UFA. In that situation they will want as much cap space as possible and therefore will not be retaining.
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6 sept. 2023 à 12 h 12
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Flames can't afford him without retaining on Hanifin how do they make the trade with retention


Flyers retain. Forgot to put that in my bad.
6 sept. 2023 à 12 h 19
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Can't we just do Fraser, a 1st, and a 2nd or 3rd? Robertson is never healthy so his trade value is near nothing.


I don’t think that’s something you can be entirely certain of though. I personally still think Robertson will become a solid top 9 scoring winger - potentially even a 30 goal scorer. He’s superbly talented and, even in the short sample of his NHL career, has shown flashes of that talent. I can’t help but think the Leafs value him a lot internally, and there’s no reason to believe other teams don’t, too.

Injuries are also a complicated topic. A lot of Robertson’s injuries have come from bad-luck, and does not indicate a given future outcome of his health. Because of that, I don’t put too much weight on his injuries.
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6 sept. 2023 à 12 h 31
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I don’t think that’s something you can be entirely certain of though. I personally still think Robertson will become a solid top 9 scoring winger - potentially even a 30 goal scorer. He’s superbly talented and, even in the short sample of his NHL career, has shown flashes of that talent. I can’t help but think the Leafs value him a lot internally, and there’s no reason to believe other teams don’t, too.

Injuries are also a complicated topic. A lot of Robertson’s injuries have come from bad-luck, and does not indicate a given future outcome of his health. Because of that, I don’t put too much weight on his injuries.


I think I'd be more comfortable with a Robertson trade after he gets enough showcase time without injuries.
6 sept. 2023 à 12 h 50
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Flyers retain. Forgot to put that in my bad.


You mean Flyers retain on Konecny, or Nylander passes through Philadelphia on the way to Calgary and they retain on him so Calgary can afford him? The latter makes more sense to me. Konecny has 2 years left on his contract, and most teams don't like to retain salary for more than one year on a guy who isn't overpaid.
6 sept. 2023 à 12 h 51
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Both are UFA"s..

Hanifin @ 2.5M >>>> Nylander @ 9.3M

And you have Calgary adding a 1st? Get real.
 
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