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What if Petey Tkachucks off

Créé par: BeautifulIdiot
Équipe: 2023-24 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 28 août 2023
Publié: 31 août 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
This is blown a little out of proportion, but Canucks can come out of this really well either way, either we start to go up with Petey staying or we tear it down to the studs and start over with 16 picks in the first 2 rounds over the next 3 years with most of those coming in the first round this year.
Transactions
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VAN
  1. Benn, Jamie
  2. Bichsel, Lian
  3. Johnston, Wyatt
  4. Stankoven, Logan
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (DAL)
DAL
  1. Pettersson, Elias
Détails additionnels:
Pettersson is going to cost a fortune, but with a a sign and trade you get him for 8 years. We even take back Benn, his suspensions, his cap hit, everything.
2.
VAN
  1. Minten, Fraser
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
TOR
  1. Kuzmenko, Andrei (2 750 000 $ retained)
3.
VAN
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (MIN)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (MIN)
MIN
  1. Boeser, Brock (3 000 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Good player, coming home, on a bargain deal. 2 picks, you sort the cap out later
4.
VAN
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (MIN)
MIN
  1. Beauvillier, Anthony (2 075 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
To any contender, 2nd and he’s yours, first and he’s yours retained
5.
VAN
  1. Mercer, Dawson
  2. Nemec, Simon
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (NJD)
NJD
  1. Hughes, Quinn
Détails additionnels:
Hughes wants to play in jersey after seeing petey leave, you want the player, you pay the price, you deal with cap later
6.
VAN
  1. Östlund, Noah
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (BUF)
BUF
  1. Hronek, Filip
Détails additionnels:
Sign and trade 6m 8y
7.
VAN
  1. Salomonsson, Elias
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
Replacing Hellebuyck
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
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4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
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894 167 $894 167 $
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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762 500 $762 500 $
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775 000 $775 000 $
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
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NTC
UFA - 3
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775 000 $775 000 $
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UFA - 2
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786 111 $786 111 $ (Bonis de performance30 000 $$30K)
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850 000 $850 000 $
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UFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
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UFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
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950 000 $950 000 $
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918 333 $918 333 $ (Bonis de performance3 250 000 $$3M)
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RFA - 3
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775 000 $775 000 $
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UFA - 1
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
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UFA - 1
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31 août 2023 à 16 h 29
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Why would Buffalo do that?
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31 août 2023 à 16 h 30
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Well...Dallas obviously declines. They aren't going to cripple the entire present AND future of their organization for one guy
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31 août 2023 à 16 h 30
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Devils do not want the player and definitely not at that price. Our defense group is perfectly fine as-is.
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31 août 2023 à 16 h 31
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I would need that 1st to be top 20 protected, and remove the 2nd to even consider this…even with the retention.
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31 août 2023 à 16 h 32
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Why would Buffalo do that?


How about we make it a 2nd
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31 août 2023 à 16 h 33
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Hronek doesn’t get more than paid for after playing 4 games and getting injured.
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31 août 2023 à 16 h 33
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Well...Dallas obviously declines. They aren't going to cripple the entire present AND future of their organization for one guy


Cripple isn’t the word I would use, you are reallocating Benns money, and getting a far better player than WJ, he’s a superstar, he’s going to cost you, look at tkachuck
31 août 2023 à 16 h 34
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I would need that 1st to be top 20 protected, and remove the 2nd to even consider this…even with the retention.


For BB at 3.65? Your pick is going to be 20-22, so that’s what i went off
31 août 2023 à 16 h 35
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Quoting: Lsendel3
Hronek doesn’t get more than paid for after playing 4 games and getting injured.


A top 17 pick in a stacked draft and high 2nd

A 20’s pick in a weaker draft and a player who probably would have slid to the 2nd round in this draft. I think its reasonably close
31 août 2023 à 16 h 39
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Quoting: BeautifulIdiot
Cripple isn’t the word I would use, you are reallocating Benns money, and getting a far better player than WJ, he’s a superstar, he’s going to cost you, look at tkachuck


Dallas is giving up:

- Their 78-point captain
- A 20-year old that's already locked into a top-6 spot
- A high end forward prospect that is being groomed to take Pavelski's spot on the top line as early as next season
- A high end defensive prospect
- Two 1st Round Picks

All of this for a guy that Dallas doesn't need. They were the 7th best offense in the NHL last year, before adding Matt Duchene to the roster this offseason. Makes no sense for Dallas to entertain giving up legitimately 5 of the best pieces in the organization for a guy that doesn't fill a NEED for them.
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31 août 2023 à 16 h 40
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Thats quite an imagination you have.Peetys going nowhere.IMHO.
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31 août 2023 à 16 h 46
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No thanks from Buffalo
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31 août 2023 à 16 h 52
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Quoting: remowilliams
Thats quite an imagination you have.Peetys going nowhere.IMHO.


I dont think he is, but if we need to ship pieces out to rebuild we will be ok, not great, but ok
31 août 2023 à 16 h 56
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Quoting: BeautifulIdiot
For BB at 3.65? Your pick is going to be 20-22, so that’s what i went off


I’d rather have the pick than Boeser if I’m being honest.
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31 août 2023 à 16 h 56
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Brothers dont need to be glued to the hip. Plz stop. where does it say Quinn wants to play for NJ? He never said that, Sick and tired of this, Brothersdont need to be together 24/7. Yall gotta stop panicking over everything Petey will resign and you guy will look so stupid oh wait you already look stupid anyway.
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31 août 2023 à 17 h 13
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Quoting: MNBassman
I would need that 1st to be top 20 protected, and remove the 2nd to even consider this…even with the retention.


Would you do top 16 protected?
31 août 2023 à 17 h 19
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A top 17 pick in a stacked draft and high 2nd

A 20’s pick in a weaker draft and a player who probably would have slid to the 2nd round in this draft. I think its reasonably close


No promises that pick will be in the 20s, and Ostlund slander around here is getting a little out of control. Played real well against men in Swedish 2 league as an 18 year old. Most points and rounded out his game really well. And again, four games for Van before (another) shoulder injury.
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31 août 2023 à 17 h 35
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Quoting: BeautifulIdiot
Cripple isn’t the word I would use, you are reallocating Benns money, and getting a far better player than WJ, he’s a superstar, he’s going to cost you, look at tkachuck


They're in a perfect situation with current vets and future talent coming up. They're essentially giving up those high end players who will take over for the vets. Plus firsts
Yeah, that's just ways too much to give up
31 août 2023 à 18 h 9
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Dallas are in no position to throw young players they have on ELC for one guy, and then pay him 10 mil+.

Sabres pass. Have to look how Clifton, Johnson signings pan out first.
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31 août 2023 à 18 h 23
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Except for the Dallas trade, every other teams, is thinking it's April 1st
Your analysis of Benn might be correct, but his NMC allows him to stay away from abyssal Vancouver. Not the city .....the hockey team Canucks.
31 août 2023 à 18 h 42
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That is an overpayment for Petey. He's a great player, but if we compare it to Tkachuk, his return was two vets on expiring deals with extensions, a prospect, and a 1st rounder. Tkachuk was coming off a 104 point season, while vet Huberdeau was coming off a 115 point season, but was also 29.

Honestly this hurts the team more than fixes it. Realistically Petey will net back good talent, a 1st rounder, and a high end prospect.

Dallas is one of the strongest offensive teams in the league currently, they aren't spending huge futures to just boost that. They'd just repeat Edmonton, stellar offense in front of tissue paper defense.

Hey if you take Suter as well maybe they'd consider it.
31 août 2023 à 19 h 9
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overrating the trade values of several players. that being said, i agree with the overall vision. if petey demands out, tear it all down
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31 août 2023 à 21 h 31
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All of these trades are BIZARRE!!!
None of these superstar players are getting traded at all.
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31 août 2023 à 21 h 34
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Sabres just wait & check out the UFA market instead of doing a sign n trade deal like this imo
1 sept. 2023 à 9 h 39
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Entirely comical price for Hughes. You'd never pull anything close to that
 
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