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Équipe: 2023-24 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 30 août 2023
Publié: 30 août 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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UFAANSCAP HIT
1787 500 $
11 000 000 $
Transactions
EDM
  1. Raddysh, Taylor
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
Détails additionnels:
It would be also good to seee Oilers add another one of McDavids Erie Otters teammates in Taylor Raddysh obviously, he break out last year looked comfortable
CHI
  1. Foegele, Warren
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (EDM)
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775 000 $775 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 225 000 $$3M)
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance650 000 $$650K)
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
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3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
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2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
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30 août 2023 à 6 h 42
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The Blackhawks do not want to see this. After seeing what Tanner Jeannot received at the TDL last year. It would be extremely foolish to settle for much less prior to the TDL. it would make Kyle Davidson look bad. They're similar players and in similar situations.

What I'm not suggesting is that TRad is guaranteed to get the same return. Just because 1 GM is foolish doesn't mean it'll happen again. What I AM suggesting is that Kyle Davidson will need to wait until the TDL to see. With that said...I do think a 1st is the starting point, BUT that'll all depend on his play this year.
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30 août 2023 à 7 h 27
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So a cap dump and a 2026 3rd round pick is going to net the oilers a solid young 20 goal scorer signed at league minimum and a better 3rd round pick??
I would absolutely love to see the logic on this one
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30 août 2023 à 7 h 45
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Raddysh is still under investigation like most of the WJ team, but that aside doubt this is anywhere close to the Hawks' asking price.
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30 août 2023 à 8 h 38
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Hawks can't decline this fast enough. Oilers get the better pick and the better player? If Oilers want to see this, they up the ante considerably.
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30 août 2023 à 8 h 51
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So a cap dump and a 2026 3rd round pick is going to net the oilers a solid young 20 goal scorer signed at league minimum and a better 3rd round pick??
I would absolutely love to see the logic on this one


5v5
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30 août 2023 à 9 h 32
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Still no.
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30 août 2023 à 10 h 3
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Foegele >> Raddysh and it's not close. Hawks fans are falling into the trap of thinking a mediocre player is better than he is because he gets premium ice time (including PP time) on a terrible team. You simply cannot project 20 goals for him if he moved to a better, deeper team like the Oilers, because he won't get PP time and won't play with Patrick Kane.

Foegele v Raddysh, 5v5

Foegele is twice the player offensively. And his IPP was significantly higher too, meaning he was more involved in creating the offense.

This is a very easy no from Edmonton. They aren't actively trying to make their roster worse.
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30 août 2023 à 10 h 3
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Quoting: OilednGreasy


What's your point here?
30 août 2023 à 10 h 6
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Foegele >> Raddysh and it's not close. Hawks fans are falling into the trap of thinking a mediocre player is better than he is because he gets premium ice time (including PP time) on a terrible team. You simply cannot project 20 goals for him if he moved to a better, deeper team like the Oilers, because he won't get PP time and won't play with Patrick Kane.

Foegele v Raddysh, 5v5

Foegele is twice the player offensively. And his IPP was significantly higher too, meaning he was more involved in creating the offense.

This is a very easy no from Edmonton. They aren't actively trying to make their roster worse.


Lol so you think his numbers would get worse on the oilers where he can play with McJesus, Drai, or RNH? what a very interesting take.....
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30 août 2023 à 10 h 13
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Lol so you think his numbers would get worse on the oilers where he can play with McJesus, Drai, or RNH? what a very interesting take.....

LOL, he wouldn't be playing with those guys. He'd be on the 4th line - he scored at 4th line rates at 5v5 last year.
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30 août 2023 à 10 h 23
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Quality of teammates.
30 août 2023 à 10 h 32
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Foegele >> Raddysh and it's not close. Hawks fans are falling into the trap of thinking a mediocre player is better than he is because he gets premium ice time (including PP time) on a terrible team. You simply cannot project 20 goals for him if he moved to a better, deeper team like the Oilers, because he won't get PP time and won't play with Patrick Kane.

Foegele v Raddysh, 5v5

Foegele is twice the player offensively. And his IPP was significantly higher too, meaning he was more involved in creating the offense.

This is a very easy no from Edmonton. They aren't actively trying to make their roster worse.


I agree Foegele is a better player, he is also paid 4x more then Raddysh. Is he 4x the player Raddysh is? No.

One team is up against the cap, the other isn’t. Trading these two players for each other would alleviate the Oilers cap concerns without significantly impacting the depth of the roster, so that on its own makes this a good deal for the Oilers, one for one without any picks involved. For the deal to makes sense for the Hawks, the Oilers should be adding a pick to pay for the Hawks cap space, I would want a 2nd but would probably settle for a 3rd at the end of the day.
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30 août 2023 à 11 h 2
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I agree Foegele is a better player, he is also paid 4x more then Raddysh. Is he 4x the player Raddysh is? No.

One team is up against the cap, the other isn’t. Trading these two players for each other would alleviate the Oilers cap concerns without significantly impacting the depth of the roster, so that on its own makes this a good deal for the Oilers, one for one without any picks involved. For the deal to makes sense for the Hawks, the Oilers should be adding a pick to pay for the Hawks cap space, I would want a 2nd but would probably settle for a 3rd at the end of the day.

Edmonton doesn't have any cap issues right now. The only reason this guy wants some space is because he wants to sign Kane. But since Kane is a midseason signing the Oilers likely will have accrued enough space by then to give him the $1M deal listed above. No trades necessary.
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30 août 2023 à 11 h 7
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Edmonton doesn't have any cap issues right now. The only reason this guy wants some space is because he wants to sign Kane. But since Kane is a midseason signing the Oilers likely will have accrued enough space by then to give him the $1M deal listed above. No trades necessary.


Thanks for the info, I was just going by this site which has them over with a 22 man roster. So I guess it is safe to assume they will run with a short roster for the majority of the season?
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30 août 2023 à 12 h 8
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Thanks for the info, I was just going by this site which has them over with a 22 man roster. So I guess it is safe to assume they will run with a short roster for the majority of the season?

Yes, they'll start with a 21 man roster, just like they did last year.
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30 août 2023 à 12 h 59
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I'd rather have the younger player with upside than the known commodity on a Hawks team that is rebuilding. Maybe in 2-3 years that is the type of deal the Hawks make. But not now.
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31 août 2023 à 19 h 31
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Quality of teammates.


Nope, Linemates. Unless you're suggesting that Foegele's most common linemates, McLeod, and Puljujarvi are better than any centre and winger Raddysh played with?
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31 août 2023 à 19 h 35
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What's your point here?


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31 août 2023 à 22 h 28
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Nope, Linemates. Unless you're suggesting that Foegele's most common linemates, McLeod, and Puljujarvi are better than any centre and winger Raddysh played with?


Not far off , Raddysh did play for the Hawks after all. Furthermore, because Raddysh was playing on one of the shawls top two lines he probably had tougher defensive matchups then Foegele would face on Edmonton’s 3rd or 4th line.
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Not far off , Raddysh did play for the Hawks after all. Furthermore, because Raddysh was playing on one of the shawls top two lines he probably had tougher defensive matchups then Foegele would face on Edmonton’s 3rd or 4th line.


Better linemates, and now better competition. But nope again Foegele vs Elite, Raddysh vs Elite
 
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