This would get the deal done if Pettersson wanted out imho

I think its an uncomfortable trade for both sides but that it fits both teams needs and timelines well

Pettersson going from one losing situation to another? That defense and goaltending isn’t any better. Filling in in 6 wingers with 12-14 million won’t be easy. Why would pettersson do this?

I think CBJ will be (somewhat) better this season and will be seen as a team on the upswing by next summer. Just enticing enough to be worth it
And most of the wings will be filled with prospects making little money. I'm very much not worried about that

If petey forces his way out is it really columbus he would sign long term in?

Yeah that is the one big hangup.
From a value point I'm looking for young teams on the upswing who are trying to accelerate the rebuild. Those are the teams with the assets and cap space to make this work. Off the top of my head within the next 2 years that looks something along the lines of BUF, CBJ, DET, OTT, and maybe MTL.
I think if Babs and the moves done this off season can get CBJ to noticeably improve to the point where they are looked on in a light similar to how Buffalo is looked on right now (say 10th - 15th pick at the draft) that they will be one of the most promising looking cities that also has the asset types Vancouver will be looking for (Young, NHL ready, and ideally RHD).
I put an 8@11 because that is kind of the standard CF star contract, but frankly I think with the cap increase and also being CBJ we could see more players going mid term. I'd do this for CBJ even if it was 4@12 frankly. I think Petey could be talked into that if CBJ have a promising season this year

This isn't uncomfortable at all for the Canucks if Pettersson is asking out. It's probably the best possible return they could dream of out of any team that could reasonably be trying to acquire him. The Jackets don't consider trading this much when the Canucks' hand is being forced.

I'm sorry but you're wearing fan goggles here. This simply isn't true. Every team in the league will be in pursuit, and your advantage is a star RHD prospect combined with an aggressive GM and lots of newfound D depth. KJ and a late 1st simply won't come close, and your other prospects don't help either for Vancouvers team Needs.

And yes, it would be extremely uncomfortable for VAN to trade Petey. The implications are huge

Again, if Pettersson is refusing to sign long term then all discomfort from trading him is gone. The Canucks have no choice in the matter and absolutely have to get whatever they can for him. Teams are going to exploit that and nobody is going to offer the dream package that people think Pettersson would get in a trade.

When Quinn Hughes also requests a trade because Pettersson is gone then the Canucks will pretty much need every single position. They're not going to get the exact perfect return of two top tier young players and an additional 1st for Pettersson. The Jackets are building a team right now that has KJ and Jiricek as core parts for the foreseeable future. *Maybe* they'd be willing to move one or the other in a Pettersson trade with some other parts, but every additional player moved opens up another hole in their own future lineup. It's just not good asset management to offer up the perfect trade package for Pettersson when the Canucks' hand is being forced. If they miss out so be it. They have the makings of a very good team as it is and contrary to what people want to believe, they have not invested any significant parts of their future in this supposed rebuild acceleration.

Listen, you seem to not understand what you're up against. Canucks will try to do what Calgary did, and QH won't leave immediately (if at all).

Also, you seem to not understand the current trade market. Stars forcing their way out still hold value. See PLD (twice) and Tkachuk

This offer needs to beat out current nhl stars because vancouver wants to win now. This is what it would cost. If you don't like it, then wallow in mediocrity. Certainly isn't my problem lmao

Tkachuk forced Calgary’s hand and they still got a winger coming off a 115 point season, a top pair dman, and a 1st

Dubois forced Winnipeg’s hand and they still got a much better return than people thought they would

Just because a player forces a teams hand it doesn’t mean their value goes way down

I mean it’s a fantastic return, but I’m not sure Columbus would be Pettersson’s dream spot to re-sign in

If Pettersson truly forces his way out I'd be happy with this return. Only problem I can see is Petey signing in Columbus. They've got a few star wingers and a good young core, but is it enough for him to want to commit to the team for pretty much his entire prime? Would probably hinge on how big a step the Jackets take forwards this season.

Hughes and Pettersson both gave the same message that they want to play for a contender and want nothing to do with a rebuild. If Pettersson goes for picks and prospects then a Hughes trade demand will be right behind him.

I don't think you get that you're the one creating proposals here. I'm not making threads about the Jackets mortgaging their prospects since I like their future as it is. Trading for a 2C makes way more sense after drafting Fantilli than anything resembling what you've got going on here.



Cool. They should go get a return like that then. Kj and Jiricek fit the Jackets' future just fine.

Buddy your eval is so funny.
Good thing your GM is the antithesis of your thinking

Yep, Jarmo is just all willy nilly running around trading away future core pieces. You're totally right there. Holy ****, why do people try to talk about teams they don't follow at all?

Lmao. You really just don't have a clue. Hey I admire that child like understanding of the world. Every day is a new discovery, and nothing bad ever happens!

You like to cite the PLD and the Chuck trades but both of them were sign and trades. Both teams getting those players were fully assured of them being their long term. This whole tread is talking about how he might not want to resign in Columbus but yet you are still trying to set his value by contracts that were locked up. Dolz is right in that columbus doesn't move all of that out just to get a rental that may or may not resign. If its an 8x10 or 8x11 sign and trade the whole market for your return changes if its a rental most if not all teams are going to limit your return to a first plus a prospect or 2nd and third round picks (see Debrincat chicago trade and DRW trade) No one gives up a projected top pair RHD and a projected Top6 F plus a first plus plus for an unknown future.

As an outsider to both teams, I don't envision a world where CBJ would offer Jiricek in that package. I could see Johnson, Boqvist, Sillinger, and a 1st. That would strike me as more palatable for CBJ while also still being a compelling package for VAN (3 young, talented NHLers & a 1st).

No one at any point suggested that this was a rental situation. You're arguing with someone you made up in your head. Petey doesn't even have a contract. There couldn't possibly be a rental situation.

Please try and keep up with everyone else

Petey might be a top 5 player in the world. That does not get you 8 years of that lmao

I could see this as more more likely play. Though it still hinges on Petty resigning prior to the trade and not starting the year off cold. I know the nuks love them some petty but he also has only had the one season above a ppg.

I said others had been floating that.



Top five in the WORLD???? He has had one season over a ppg. Mathews has had 6 consecutive and just got 5x13.2 with zero NTC until the final year. 8x10 or 8x11 with M-NTC or a full NTC isnt going to be to far off. As much as I hate the leafs saying petty is better than mathews would be delusional.

No one floated that. He doesn't have a contract - it isnt even an option. You just aren't paying attention and made assumptions



No one said he is better than Matthews either. Once again, you are arguing with someone you made up in your head.

You said top 5 in the world and mathews would be 5 on my list.
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