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Speeding up the rebuild

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Équipe: 2023-24 Ducks d'Anaheim
Date de création initiale: 13 août 2023
Publié: 13 août 2023
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13 août 2023 à 19 h 40
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Why would the Devils need to dump Meier right after signing him?
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
Why would the Devils need to dump Meier right after signing him?


To sign Helle or another great goaltender
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To sign Helle or another great goaltender


No offense but clearly you know nothing about the Devils' cap situation. There are lots of things they can do that aren't trading newly-signed Meier for pennies.
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13 août 2023 à 19 h 43
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
No offense but clearly you know nothing about the Devils' cap situation. There are lots of things they can do that aren't trading newly-signed Meier for pennies.


Well this post was for the Ducks not the Devils so....

As a Rangers fan I can admit that you have a great team. But if your goalie isn't solid you will have serious trouble in the playoffs. Look at the Oilers, Leafs, even Canes. Maybe trading Meier isn't the solution but you will not be able to get a great goaltender on the cheap
13 août 2023 à 19 h 46
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Modifié 13 août 2023 à 19 h 53
laugh Cernak and Stamkos is worth more than that garbage.

Too bad all Canadian teams are on John Gibsons no trade list, And it's already been reported that he said no to the Leafs awhile back.

And hot garbage for Timo Meier, Even Fitzgerald isn't that dumb.

Ryan Leonard for Stamkos, That trade is a bigger joke. This dude is just Trolling and making laughable trades that aren't remotely realistic.
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Quoting: Coachchippy
Well this post was for the Ducks not the Devils so....


That doesn't mean your trades don't have to make sense for both sides

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As a Rangers fan I can admit that you have a great team. But if your goalie isn't solid you will have serious trouble in the playoffs. Look at the Oilers, Leafs, even Canes. Maybe trading Meier isn't the solution but you will not be able to get a great goaltender on the cheap


I never said we'd be able to get a goalie for cheap. We aren't trading Meier.
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13 août 2023 à 19 h 49
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Quoting: NJDevils1317
It's just a troll post. Let him have his fun by himself.


But I'm bored and there aren't any non-troll Devils posts
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13 août 2023 à 19 h 51
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It‘s easy to rebuild when you make a bunch of lopsided, unrealistic trades.

Leafs, Bolts, Devils decline without hesitation, leaving the other trades non-existent.
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But I'm bored and there aren't any non-troll Devils posts


Fair enough
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13 août 2023 à 19 h 59
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Quoting: Coachchippy
Well this post was for the Ducks not the Devils so....

As a Rangers fan I can admit that you have a great team. But if your goalie isn't solid you will have serious trouble in the playoffs. Look at the Oilers, Leafs, even Canes. Maybe trading Meier isn't the solution but you will not be able to get a great goaltender on the cheap


The Devils could trade Palat - with picks if needed - to free up the space to sign a goalie. But they don’t need one at the moment.

Meier’s a 30-40G 70pt+ player with a physical game. We can revisit him being a cap dump in 5? years. With Meier out and Helle in, critics would call the Devils “soft.” No matter the scenario, there will always be something.
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13 août 2023 à 20 h 2
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But I'm bored and there aren't any non-troll Devils posts


I'm actually not trolling in the slightest. You have over $47 million tied up between 8 guys until 2027 at the absolute earliest. Now the cap will definitely go up --- but who's the odd one out, of Meier, Hughes, Bratt, Hischier, Palat, Hamilton, Marino, and Siegenthaler to afford a goalie who is going to command at least 9mil if they are anything worth their salt? Or which third/fourth line guys are you kicking out? Not to mention, Luke Hughes. The kid is probably going to be a stud just like Quinn, who's getting paid almost 8 mil a year. All of this to say, if I'm the Devils I'm getting rid of Meier and bringing in a great goaltender. You were doing fine last year before you brought him in. He's not a key piece like J Hughes that the Devils absolutely can't live without.
13 août 2023 à 20 h 6
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The Devils could trade Palat - with picks if needed - to free up the space to sign a goalie. But they don’t need one at the moment.

Meier’s a 30-40G 70pt+ player with a physical game. We can revisit him being a cap dump in 5? years. With Meier out and Helle in, critics would call the Devils “soft.” No matter the scenario, there will always be something.


I have to disagree here. You guys were doing fine before you brought in Meier last year. He's not a key piece in the way that Jack Hughes is. Plus, Palat is a notoriously great playoff performer
13 août 2023 à 20 h 13
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that is one way to do it
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13 août 2023 à 20 h 15
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Man that Capitals trade is horrific. The Caps puke, decline, and then puke again. Hägg is barely an NHLer at this point. I honestly wouldn’t trade Fehervary alone for that entire package. Stamkos is signed for one (1) year and then an UFA. Leonard would not be anywhere near the discussion of this trade. Just an abysmal nightmare.
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Man that Capitals trade is horrific. The Caps puke, decline, and then puke again.


Why? They don't have many years left with the current core. A HEAVILY discounted Stamkos could easily help with a serious push towards another Cup before Ovi retires
13 août 2023 à 20 h 18
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Why? They don't have many years left with the current core. A HEAVILY discounted Stamkos could easily help with a serious push towards another Cup before Ovi retires
A heavily discounted Stamkos for one (1) season isn’t worth Fehervary, not to mention Leonard. You’re delusional.
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A heavily discounted Stamkos for one (1) season isn’t worth Fehervary, not to mention Leonard. You’re delusional.


A ppg+ center who captained a team to two Stanley Cups isn't worth Fehervary? You can extend him a couple more years and he'll still be great. It's like turning down Crosby for pennies on the dollar.

I mean the Caps are either rebuilding or they aren't. If they do in a few years, Fehervary is probably going to be sold off and Leonard might be too. It would be one thing if the rebuild already started and you said no to giving up Leonard. But might as well still compete while you can
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13 août 2023 à 20 h 23
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I have to disagree here. You guys were doing fine before you brought in Meier last year. He's not a key piece in the way that Jack Hughes is. Plus, Palat is a notoriously great playoff performer


The comparison isn’t Meier vs. Jack, it’s Meier (at $8.8) is better than Palat (at $6M). I’m confident most would agree with that.

The Devils were fine with Meier - 12-7 to end the year - and he scored on a 35 goal pace. Small sample arguments can be made both ways.
13 août 2023 à 20 h 56
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A ppg+ center who captained a team to two Stanley Cups isn't worth Fehervary? You can extend him a couple more years and he'll still be great. It's like turning down Crosby for pennies on the dollar.

I mean the Caps are either rebuilding or they aren't. If they do in a few years, Fehervary is probably going to be sold off and Leonard might be too. It would be one thing if the rebuild already started and you said no to giving up Leonard. But might as well still compete while you can


No, Leonard could be a top 6 forward for the caps for over a decade. He’s an elite Tkachuk/Wilson-like talent. That is NOT worth a singular season of stamkos, let alone the caps adding a young top 4 defenseman on top of that. It’s not even close. The caps aren’t winning a cup this year. No reason to sell the farm to go for it when they’re not even close.
13 août 2023 à 21 h 7
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laugh Cernak and Stamkos is worth more than that garbage.

Too bad all Canadian teams are on John Gibsons no trade list, And it's already been reported that he said no to the Leafs awhile back.

And hot garbage for Timo Meier, Even Fitzgerald isn't that dumb.

Ryan Leonard for Stamkos, That trade is a bigger joke. This dude is just Trolling and making laughable trades that aren't remotely realistic.


Paul and Cernak are worth more than that
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13 août 2023 à 21 h 26
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As a Rangers fan I can admit that you have a great team. But if your goalie isn't solid you will have serious trouble in the playoffs. Look at the Oilers, Leafs, even Canes.

Look at the Vegas Golden Knights.

Quoting: NJDevils1317
It's just a troll post. Let him have his fun by himself.

He's stated in a contemporaneous ACGM that he isn't really intending to be taken seriously with any of his ACGMs.

Quoting: Kuzbackov
Man that Capitals trade is horrific. The Caps puke, decline, and then puke again. Hägg is barely an NHLer at this point. I honestly wouldn’t trade Fehervary alone for that entire package. Stamkos is signed for one (1) year and then an UFA. Leonard would not be anywhere near the discussion of this trade. Just an abysmal nightmare.

Just for the record (I'm sure I don't have to say this) -- we Anaheim fans have nothing to do with this.
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13 août 2023 à 21 h 31
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Rangers moment
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13 août 2023 à 21 h 32
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I'm actually not trolling in the slightest. You have over $47 million tied up between 8 guys until 2027 at the absolute earliest. Now the cap will definitely go up --- but who's the odd one out, of Meier, Hughes, Bratt, Hischier, Palat, Hamilton, Marino, and Siegenthaler to afford a goalie who is going to command at least 9mil if they are anything worth their salt? Or which third/fourth line guys are you kicking out? Not to mention, Luke Hughes. The kid is probably going to be a stud just like Quinn, who's getting paid almost 8 mil a year. All of this to say, if I'm the Devils I'm getting rid of Meier and bringing in a great goaltender. You were doing fine last year before you brought him in. He's not a key piece like J Hughes that the Devils absolutely can't live without.


How on Earth is Meier the odd one out there? It's Palat! And if we can't get rid of him it's Marino.

I'm seriously baffled at how you came to the conclusion Meier would be the one to move, and that it would be this season
 
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