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STILL TOO EARLY NHL STANDINGS PREDICTIONS V2

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Date de création initiale: 8 août 2023
Publié: 12 août 2023
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Version 1 was July 5
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
3283 500 000 $50 195 111 $0 $1 152 503 $33 304 889 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
775 000 $775 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
775 000 $775 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
775 000 $775 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Stars de Dallas
825 000 $825 000 $
C
RFA - 3
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
4 975 000 $4 975 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
897 500 $897 500 $
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
867 500 $867 500 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
C
RFA - 3
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
850 000 $850 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Kraken de Seattle
775 000 $775 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Predators de Nashville
789 167 $789 167 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
C, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
850 000 $850 000 $ (Bonis de performance50 003 $$50K)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
2 166 667 $2 166 667 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Panthers de la Floride
896 667 $896 667 $ (Bonis de performance80 000 $$80K)
DG
RFA - 3
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
775 000 $775 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
775 000 $775 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
925 000 $925 000 $
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
883 750 $883 750 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
809 444 $809 444 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
800 000 $800 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
775 000 $775 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
8 460 250 $8 460 250 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Rangers de New York
775 000 $775 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
825 000 $825 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
850 833 $850 833 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Capitals de Washington
825 000 $825 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
785 000 $785 000 $
AD
RFA - 1

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12 août 2023 à 10 h 0
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PDG over PDO
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I think your honestly a little to high on Anaheim and Calgary
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12 août 2023 à 10 h 6
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Anaheim will not finish ahead of Vancouver unless they (VAN) get tons of injuries, and the Atlantic is a bit weird too, couldn't see Ottawa passing 3 of last year's playoff teams
12 août 2023 à 10 h 10
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Rangers behind pens is wildddddd. And Sabres ahead of Panthers
12 août 2023 à 10 h 17
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Quoting: theleano1
I think your honestly a little to high on Anaheim and Calgary


Calgary will be better this year with a different coach. They won't be worse.
12 août 2023 à 10 h 21
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PDG over PDO
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Quoting: RipNasty
Calgary will be better this year with a different coach. They won't be worse.


Hanifin want's out and will likely be moved before the TDL, it's very likely Lindholm is gone too. they lost their top point producer in Toffoli. even with a new coach they aren't bouncing back.
12 août 2023 à 10 h 23
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Quoting: theleano1
Hanifin want's out and will likely be moved before the TDL, it's very likely Lindholm is gone too. they lost their top point producer in Toffoli. even with a new coach they aren't bouncing back.


Toffoli's season was a mirage and he's hardly their best player. Kadri and Huberdeau will rebound and Hanifin just isn't all that special, his loss won't matter. Lindholm as well isn't all that important, if they trade them, they'll be hockey trades where they get back decent roster players as well.
12 août 2023 à 10 h 28
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LA first in their division with one of the worst goalie tandems in the league doesn't seem likely. If Vancouver can stay healthy I think they could surprise a lot of people, they're definitely ahead of Anaheim imo.

I think Detroit will be improved and goaltending will be everything for Florida, if Bob struggles they could be seriously fukked.

Can't see the Blues being second last, Nashville and the Wild could easily drop down a spot or two.

Think the Rangers will be ahead of Pittsburgh but who knows, that division looks like a real dog fight other then Philly being last.
12 août 2023 à 10 h 33
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PDG over PDO
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Quoting: RipNasty
Toffoli's season was a mirage and he's hardly their best player. Kadri and Huberdeau will rebound and Hanifin just isn't all that special, his loss won't matter. Lindholm as well isn't all that important, if they trade them, they'll be hockey trades where they get back decent roster players as well.


Hanifin was their 2nd best dman last year and playing on their top pair he is absolutely going to lose to hurt, Lindholm is their best pure goal scorer if he is gone there's a zero percent chance, Huberdeau will rebound, Huberdeau's best asset is his playmaking if they don't have anyone that's a good goal scorer Huberdeau's are only going to look worse, no one is giving them are a hockey trade for Huberdeau and Hanifin they will be moved for futures, they are probably losing Backlund as well, even if Toffoli's season was a mirage where are they making up his production? it won't be Huberdeau without a center that can score. No team can lose their #1 C their #3C and their #2D and expect to improve.
12 août 2023 à 10 h 36
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Sens, Kings and Pens are too high. Vegas too low. Canucks and Bruins should be higher. You have the Sharks exactly where they should be. I thought Detroit should be higher but I can't justify them finishing ahead of the teams in front of them.
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12 août 2023 à 10 h 38
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Hanifin was their 2nd best dman last year and playing on their top pair he is absolutely going to lose to hurt, Lindholm is their best pure goal scorer if he is gone there's a zero percent chance, Huberdeau will rebound, Huberdeau's best asset is his playmaking if they don't have anyone that's a good goal scorer Huberdeau's are only going to look worse, no one is giving them are a hockey trade for Huberdeau and Hanifin they will be moved for futures, they are probably losing Backlund as well, even if Toffoli's season was a mirage where are they making up his production? it won't be Huberdeau without a center that can score. No team can lose their #1 C their #3C and their #2D and expect to improve.


He didn't finish on their top pair. It was Andersson and Weegar by the end of the season. Hanifin is a 2nd pair defender. He's very much overrated. He's a good player sure but he's not elite in anyway.
12 août 2023 à 10 h 43
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Quoting: RipNasty
He didn't finish on their top pair. It was Andersson and Weegar by the end of the season. Hanifin is a 2nd pair defender. He's very much overrated. He's a good player sure but he's not elite in anyway.


He was 2nd in ice timer per game, he had over 600 more minutes playing on the top pair this year, the other pair he was mostly on was with Tanev who he himself may be on his way out too. they can't lose all these big pieces and expect to be in the playoff hunt this year.
12 août 2023 à 10 h 46
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He was 2nd in ice timer per game, he had over 600 more minutes playing on the top pair this year, the other pair he was mostly on was with Tanev who he himself may be on his way out too. they can't lose all these big pieces and expect to be in the playoff hunt this year.


It was pretty clear they under performed last year. Expecting to not be better than last season is just hopeful for Canuck fans that want to finish closer to the playoffs than they will.
12 août 2023 à 10 h 51
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It was pretty clear they under performed last year. Expecting to not be better than last season is just hopeful for Canuck fans that want to finish closer to the playoffs than they will.


They really didn't under perform is the issue, they replaced Tkachauck and Gaudreau with on average 50 point center and an ageing winger who was never going to repeat the year he just had, it's really not wishful thinking by Canucks fans saying a team that finished poor last year and is bleeding their top players is going to be worse it's just logical.
12 août 2023 à 10 h 58
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The Kings, Senators and Penguins are too high. Vegas is way too low. Canucks and Bruins should also be higher.
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12 août 2023 à 10 h 59
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Ottawa isn't finishing that high and as a leafs fan i doubt we finish first, i really think it will be TOR and TBL #2-#3 again Canucks and Bruins should be higher Flames and Buffalo need to drop imho
12 août 2023 à 11 h 55
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They really didn't under perform is the issue, they replaced Tkachauck and Gaudreau with on average 50 point center and an ageing winger who was never going to repeat the year he just had, it's really not wishful thinking by Canucks fans saying a team that finished poor last year and is bleeding their top players is going to be worse it's just logical.


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12 août 2023 à 11 h 57
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Sure bud


which part of that statement is incorrect?
12 août 2023 à 12 h 53
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which part of that statement is incorrect?


I think you have some bias against Calgary here
12 août 2023 à 20 h 12
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Quoting: theleano1
I think your honestly a little to high on Anaheim and Calgary


Quoting: Puckluckchuck
Anaheim will not finish ahead of Vancouver unless they (VAN) get tons of injuries, and the Atlantic is a bit weird too, couldn't see Ottawa passing 3 of last year's playoff teams


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Calgary will be better this year with a different coach. They won't be worse.


Quoting: theleano1
Hanifin want's out and will likely be moved before the TDL, it's very likely Lindholm is gone too. they lost their top point producer in Toffoli. even with a new coach they aren't bouncing back.


The bottom-4 teams in the pacific I could honestly see going any way… I know moves will happen in just going with what I see as possible with current rosters
12 août 2023 à 20 h 20
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LA first in their division with one of the worst goalie tandems in the league doesn't seem likely. If Vancouver can stay healthy I think they could surprise a lot of people, they're definitely ahead of Anaheim imo.

I think Detroit will be improved and goaltending will be everything for Florida, if Bob struggles they could be seriously fukked.

Can't see the Blues being second last, Nashville and the Wild could easily drop down a spot or two.

Think the Rangers will be ahead of Pittsburgh but who knows, that division looks like a real dog fight other then Philly being last.


I don’t deny a lot of my takes are improbable and probably will be wrong when I look back in a year but a lot of stuff changes every year and I’m just taking a stab at what does… lol

LA-I’m betting on their Centre depth, young players taking huge steps forward on F and D

VAN-I rlly want to believe In them, and I would not be shocked to see them get the last wild card in the western conference but I still see a team that is less than the sum of their part until they prove otherwise

CENTRAL-fair point on the blues, but NSH had some encouraging signs to end last season and MIN has good enough goaltending and defensive structure I think they make the playoffs

METRO-is easily the toughest and most even division top to bottom… it’ll be crazy and it’s anyone’s guess what happens 1-8…. Pit improved a lot this off-season while NYR I think took a step back while NYI is where offense goes to die somehow…

Thanks for the feedback! 👍
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12 août 2023 à 20 h 24
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Quoting: Scooter81
The Kings, Senators and Penguins are too high. Vegas is way too low. Canucks and Bruins should also be higher.


Something has to change tho right? Those are some of my guesses…

Quoting: Thetypicalcapfriendlymod
Ottawa isn't finishing that high and as a leafs fan i doubt we finish first, i really think it will be TOR and TBL #2-#3 again Canucks and Bruins should be higher Flames and Buffalo need to drop imho


I didn’t think TOR would be 1 either but when I made the list I couldn’t see any other team being able to rack up as many wins… Tampa has no depth now unless they have diamonds in the rough, Boston lost their top 2 Centres and I see them taking a massive step back with a lot of aging players or regression to the mean.
12 août 2023 à 20 h 25
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Boy I see all of these and I think everyone's a little too high on my Avs. We are likely going to be rolling out some very green players on 3 line RW and 4th line C and RW. There's a good chance our 3rd D pairing involves Jack Johnson/Brad Hunt/Sam Malinski rotating through. We're also hoping that Drouin magically turns his issues around purely because of Nathan MacKinnon. All of these things could work out and if they do we've got the talent to roll in the Central, but I think Dallas is going to have a much easier ride to the top than we will. Don't get me wrong, I don't think we finish lower than 3rd in our division, but top spot is nowhere close to a guarantee.
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13 août 2023 à 11 h 0
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PDG over PDO
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Quoting: RipNasty
I think you have some bias against Calgary here


I'd say you have bias against Vancouver when in you brought Vancouver fans into it when i never mentioned Vancouver, Calgary is an old team losing talent it's not a shock to think they will take a step back.
13 août 2023 à 11 h 10
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Quoting: theleano1
I'd say you have bias against Vancouver when in you brought Vancouver fans into it when i never mentioned Vancouver, Calgary is an old team losing talent it's not a shock to think they will take a step back.


Does it really matter though? Neither team is likely a playoff team. And Vancouver isn't exactly young either. Miller is older and won't be as good as he was in his 20's. I think Calgary had a terrible system last year under Sutter and it certainly limited their team. A better system with the new coach will show improvement. I don't think Calgary has anymore that a year or two of being a playoff team and then they will have a long rebuild on their hands due to multiple horrible long term contracts.
13 août 2023 à 11 h 17
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Quoting: RipNasty
Does it really matter though? Neither team is likely a playoff team. And Vancouver isn't exactly young either. Miller is older and won't be as good as he was in his 20's. I think Calgary had a terrible system last year under Sutter and it certainly limited their team. A better system with the new coach will show improvement. I don't think Calgary has anymore that a year or two of being a playoff team and then they will have a long rebuild on their hands due to multiple horrible long term contracts.


I mean Vancouver is still in the top 10 by average age so i wouldn't exactly call them old either, Miller should still be around a pp/g still Calgary is more than likely going to play a similar system to what they played under Sutter, i mean they did hire one of Sutter's assistants after all, I also just don't see a coaching change magically adding 40 points to Hubreadau's game, i am not sure if Vancouver makes it this year but I definitely think we have a much better chance than Calgary.
 
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