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Créé par: Ross_Johnston
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 8 août 2023
Publié: 8 août 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
33 500 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Pinto, Shane3 500 000 $
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (DAL)
DAL
  1. Petry, Jeff (2 343 750 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (SJS)
2.
MTL
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
3.
MTL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
WPG
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (DAL)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Enfoui
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2024
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2025
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Logo de PIT
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $73 790 416 $1 170 000 $4 210 000 $9 709 584 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 985 000 $1 985 000 $ (Bonis de performance15 000 $$15K)
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 4
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
775 000 $775 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance275 000 $$275K)
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
828 333 $828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
766 667 $766 667 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
812 500 $812 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 925 000 $1 925 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2

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8 août 2023 à 9 h 48
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I don't see teams overpaying for Montreal's junk.
8 août 2023 à 9 h 49
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Oh god not these Petry to Dallas trades again...DAL has no space for this move.

Take Suter off our hands and then I'd accept.
8 août 2023 à 9 h 54
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Jets aren't doing that, that 3rd rounder would need to be swapped for something much better for the Jets to consider this.
8 août 2023 à 9 h 55
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I don't see teams overpaying for Montreal's junk.


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Oh god not these Petry to Dallas trades again...DAL has no space for this move.

Take Suter off our hands and then I'd accept.


I would tbh but suter wouldn't waive
8 août 2023 à 10 h 4
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Here we go again, Mtl supporter wanting the Mtl 2nd rd pic.

As mentioned in a previous post(s), lets involve that pic for the likes of Kirby Dach and Jonathan Kovacevic. Otherwise, no need to discuss.
8 août 2023 à 10 h 19
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Here we go again, Mtl supporter wanting the Mtl 2nd rd pic.

As mentioned in a previous post(s), lets involve that pic for the likes of Kirby Dach and Jonathan Kovacevic. Otherwise, no need to discuss.


kirby dach and Jonathan Kovacevic for a second round pick?
8 août 2023 à 10 h 21
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kirby dach and Jonathan Kovacevic for a second round pick?


Read my comment carefully!
8 août 2023 à 10 h 29
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Here we go again, Mtl supporter wanting the Mtl 2nd rd pic.

As mentioned in a previous post(s), lets involve that pic for the likes of Kirby Dach and Jonathan Kovacevic. Otherwise, no need to discuss.


We will gladly send you Kovacevic for the MTL '24 2nd, what a wonderful idea. Thanks for coming to the Ted Talk, that was a valuable contribution. Pleasure doing business.
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8 août 2023 à 10 h 30
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Read my comment carefully!


im good thx lmao what a joke
8 août 2023 à 10 h 39
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im good thx lmao what a joke


Glad you enjoyed it...
8 août 2023 à 10 h 46
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Glad you enjoyed it...
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Glad you enjoyed it...


check out my last acgm
8 août 2023 à 10 h 57
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Quoting: Just_A_Guess
We will gladly send you Kovacevic for the MTL '24 2nd, what a wonderful idea. Thanks for coming to the Ted Talk, that was a valuable contribution. Pleasure doing business.


Your welcome. These one sided proposals by the Mtl supporters are getting tiring.

Appears that you don't like proposals that would involve players which you view as untouchable.

As I suggested, this Mtl second rd pick (valuable for Wpg) would be an asset used in a Kirby Dach and Jonathan Kovacevic trade, if ever it got to that.
8 août 2023 à 11 h 1
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Your welcome. These one sided proposals by the Mtl supporters are getting tiring.

Appears that you don't like proposals that would involve players which you view as untouchable.

As I suggested, this Mtl second rd pick (valuable for Wpg) would be an asset used in a Kirby Dach and Jonathan Kovacevic trade, if ever it got to that.


no
8 août 2023 à 11 h 35
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Quoting: Windjammer
I don't see teams overpaying for Montreal's junk.


Petry would be the 2nd best dmen on the Jets and much better defensively than Morrisey
8 août 2023 à 11 h 36
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Petry would be the 2nd best dmen on the Jets and much better defensively than Morrisey


don't bother engaging with this user. not worth it
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8 août 2023 à 11 h 36
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Jets aren't doing that, that 3rd rounder would need to be swapped for something much better for the Jets to consider this.


Do you understand the value of draft picks? The value to move up about 15 spots in the 2nd round is worth a 3rd at best
8 août 2023 à 11 h 38
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Here we go again, Mtl supporter wanting the Mtl 2nd rd pic.

As mentioned in a previous post(s), lets involve that pic for the likes of Kirby Dach and Jonathan Kovacevic. Otherwise, no need to discuss.


There isnt a player on the Jets roster worth giving up Dach for. Connor and Ehlers both dont fit the age period this roster is trying to build
8 août 2023 à 11 h 48
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Do you understand the value of draft picks? The value to move up about 15 spots in the 2nd round is worth a 3rd at best


Do you understand timing? A trade at the draft to move up MIGHT cost this but right now there's no chance the Jets do this, add another piece of interest like I said and maybe it'd be considered but this deal as proposed here wouldn't, another thing is its a 2025 3rd so the Jets move back in the 2nd round and wait till the following draft for their compensation, yeah thats not happening.

Also there's a good chance the difference between the Habs 2nd and Dallas' could be more then 15 spots.
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There isnt a player on the Jets roster worth giving up Dach for. Connor and Ehlers both dont fit the age period this roster is trying to build


That's no problem. I was making a point as to how the Mtl supporters view rosters outside of Mtl versus their own. Just got my answer, again. Thanks
8 août 2023 à 11 h 58
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That's no problem. I was making a point as to how the Mtl supporters view rosters outside of Mtl versus their own. Just got my answer, again. Thanks


But theres a graph that shows the value of draft picks says the habs pick is 37th and the Stars pick is 55th, the difference in value would late 4th round pick.

The overvaluation of some players is based on the team structure. Players like Dach, Suzuki, Caufield, to be acquired, would have to be so severely overpaid that it is barely worth it. A great example is the Dubois trade, Kings overpayed like crazy for a player they didnt really need. Habs were only gonna give up what THEY thought the value of the player based on their org composition is worth.

Thats why players like Chiarot go for 1st rounders while the Habs can grab Kovacevic, a much better player, off of waivers.
8 août 2023 à 12 h 5
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But theres a graph that shows the value of draft picks says the habs pick is 37th and the Stars pick is 55th, the difference in value would late 4th round pick.

The overvaluation of some players is based on the team structure. Players like Dach, Suzuki, Caufield, to be acquired, would have to be so severely overpaid that it is barely worth it. A great example is the Dubois trade, Kings overpayed like crazy for a player they didnt really need. Habs were only gonna give up what THEY thought the value of the player based on their org composition is worth.

Thats why players like Chiarot go for 1st rounders while the Habs can grab Kovacevic, a much better player, off of waivers.


Thanks, Jeff...
8 août 2023 à 13 h 31
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Your welcome. These one sided proposals by the Mtl supporters are getting tiring.

Appears that you don't like proposals that would involve players which you view as untouchable.

As I suggested, this Mtl second rd pick (valuable for Wpg) would be an asset used in a Kirby Dach and Jonathan Kovacevic trade, if ever it got to that.


Along with 3 1sts and a couple blue chips? JK is worth about a 3rd, we acquired Dach for a 13OA & a 3rd. That 2nd is worth...wait for it...a 2nd. Go ahead and "educate" the rest of us as to how your math works. We'll wait. Nothing about Dach is untouchable but for WPG fans to think we're going to pay a stupid amount to get our 2nd rounder back? That's windjammer logic.
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8 août 2023 à 14 h 30
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Along with 3 1sts and a couple blue chips? JK is worth about a 3rd, we acquired Dach for a 13OA & a 3rd. That 2nd is worth...wait for it...a 2nd. Go ahead and "educate" the rest of us as to how your math works. We'll wait. Nothing about Dach is untouchable but for WPG fans to think we're going to pay a stupid amount to get our 2nd rounder back? That's windjammer logic.


windjammer logic. trademark that!!!
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8 août 2023 à 18 h 35
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Along with 3 1sts and a couple blue chips? JK is worth about a 3rd, we acquired Dach for a 13OA & a 3rd. That 2nd is worth...wait for it...a 2nd. Go ahead and "educate" the rest of us as to how your math works. We'll wait. Nothing about Dach is untouchable but for WPG fans to think we're going to pay a stupid amount to get our 2nd rounder back? That's windjammer logic.


Please, before you jump all over me, read carefully what I wrote "would be an asset used in a Kirby Dach and Jonathan Kovacevic trade".

This means that the Mtl 2nd round would be an asset used in a trade for those guys. Do I state that is all that would be involved in such a trade, NO, which apparently seems that you took it as! There of course would be other pieces to that trade, if such a trade happened.

Now, what got me going is simply. Many of the Mtl supporters want that 24 2nd rounder as I've seen, its going to be a good prospect pic. Now, why would Wpg give up a 33rd to 40 overall pic for a 24 Dal 2nd rounder (probably be mid 50 pic and wait another year for 90th pic... Help me understand this.. I think quality of pic should override quantity of pick(s).
 
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