This team needs a reBUILD and they've needed it since the sedins declined/retired. Perhaps a reTOOL could be done if Pettersson stays. But Vancouver has consistently failed to see/accept that they're striving for mediocrity and keeping themselves in the playoff bubble: not bad enough for top picks (often enough), not good enough to compete AND filling their cap with mediocre players and mildly too much money

This team has signed sooooo many middle of the lineup players from like 2.5-5 million over the last number of years

Cole
Soucy
Poolman
Mikheyev

Are all currently on the team

Add in garland, and Pearson acquired by trade

And then guys who are gone including
Beagle
Ferland
Roussel

And that doesn't even include overpaying Myers.

Just stop. Tear it down and rebuild properly.

Agree but I doubt the owner will allow a rebuild at this stage. If he was willing, it would have happened already

Under the Aquilini ownership group a rebuild is not happening.

Yeah it really seems it is Aquilini's fault

As an aside it makes me wonder if Benning was better than we realize.

Benning was pretty bad overall. He had two massive hits in drafting Petey and Hughes, but his professional scouting, signings, trades and cap management were disastrous. This team would undoubtedly be better right now if it was someone else that had been making those decisions during his time here.

The more I think about this, the more I like this as a Canes fan. Really it breaks down to a young top-6 winger with potential, a 2/3 center with term, a young bottom-6 forward, and a couple high picks for a very valuable #1 center and a middle-6 winger.

Canes Lines:
Bunting - Aho - Necas
Svechnikov - Pettersson - Boeser
Martinook - Staal - Teravainen
Noesen - PROSPECT - Fast
Lemieux

That's a crazy good forward group.

why sell off pettersson for half his value?

They don't need a rebuild, saying they do is admitting your ignorance to the strength of the core in place, and the supporting cast is not to shabby actually

It's not a question of whether they want to or not, it's whether or not they NEED to, and the answer to that is no, not yet

Can say the same for Montreal and Bergevin. Flyers and Chuck Fletcher. Flames and Treliving too

No, it wasn’t his faults for not doing a rebuild but it was his fault for doing that terrible OEL trade and more or less signing every UFA to terrible deals

We don't know how next season will play out, there is still a path to contending with the current core, the door isn't closed unless they miss the playoffs next season, don't get ahead of yourself. No off-season is the same as any previous off-season

Where did you hear that Pettersson wants out of Vancouver or that he's been hinting at it? As far as the trade, Vancouver is getting robbed. Pettersson without salary retention is worth more than that.

Aquilini absolutely deserves some blame for approving the OEL trade, and now he and his brothers are paying the price for that mistake, but that doesn't mean contending is out of the question for the current core just yet

Honestly, I think Pettersson is more likely to accept a 3-4 year deal that takes him to UFA status at age 27-28 and then look to cash in one more time than he is to force his drag things and force his way out next season

You might as well add Conroy already. He has already done a terrible job with the coach decision and the Toffoli trade was dreadful. He won’t be doing Calgary any favors unfortunately. He was the right hand to the guy that put Calgary in this mess, he signed the right hand to the coach that also put them in that mess.

Yeah, I've definitely lost faith in Conroy already, but I don't feel too bad for the Flames since they are a division rival to me

The issue with this is that you're asking for Carolina to give up a 1st and a 3rd (Kotkaniemi) a 1st (Jarvis), another 1st, and 2 2nds (Drury and the pick). In total, that's 3 1sts, 2 2nds and a 3rd. No. I'm not even saying the value is wrong, but you're not going to get Jarvis definitely, and Kotkaniemi probably. If this was Morrow, and a package of futures, I think it's very different. Carolina don't need to move money to take EP40 half retained. I think Canuck fans are going to call for your head on a spike, but there's no need for a contending team to gut the entire future of the organization for a 2C that is up at the end of the year.

ESPECIALLY with the uncertainty around Teravainen, Pesce, Skjei, Raanta, Necas etc in the future. Carolina won't have the room to pay EP the kind of money he'll ask for on top of gutting the depth. They need the young roster pieces. If this is a futures package, definitely.

Agree that the trade doesn't make sense for Carolina, even if the valuation favors them

That's certainly possible. I'm just wondering where @Aebexz is hearing this rumor that Pettersson wants out.

Pettersson costs way, way more then that

Trouble with so called rebuilding it the thought other teams wanting /or have the cap for players team want to "dump". The only way truly to rebuild is let those bad contracts expire, and then build without those players.

He's overreacting. If Pettersson truly has a sense of decency, he'll at the very least hold off on signing a contract extension to at least see where the upcoming season goes to be able to gage how trustworthy new management is, as the ON-ICE misfortunes of last season weren't managements fault, they were all carry over issues from ownership and/or the previous regime. Getting both coach and ownership on the same page just isn't something that happens overnight

Cap sheet is pretty clean once Myers is off the books barring no incoming ill-advised overpayments

Calling Pettersson a 2C is laughable. He’s a superstar 1C who easily becomes Carolina’s best player