Modifié 2 août 2023 à 14 h 2
Quoting: pens1991
You definitely don't know if other teams are in or out on karlsson, none of us know that. All it takes is one trade from someone like Carolina moving Pesce or the leafs moving Nylander and things open back up so to say no one else is in would be a blind comment. Specially considering in Sweden recently he said he'd spoken to multiple teams.
I won't disagree on his health, He's missed like 30% of the games since joining SJ, but you have to take risks to win and succeed, and yes his cap hit is high, no one is arguing that but the cap is projected to go up $4M next summer and in reality the penguins have maybe 2 years left so who cares.
I'm sorry, but you can't compare the burns trade to a potential EK trade. EK is vastly better and 5 years younger.
If you think a 1st isn't going to SJ for EK then i'm not sure what to tell you, they're not going to take a bag of paper for the norris trophy winner, nor will they eat $4.5M. I think $4M is the absolute highest they'll go.
I've always been in the camp that i'd rather see the penguins use assets to bolster the 3rd line/middle six instead of EK, plus thinking it's too difficult to obtain EK because they have to move Petry and Granlund, but I easily understand the reason to add EK if they can, he immediately elevates the team and the PP.
No, I don't know that for sure but there aren't many that make sense. Carolina would have to move Pesce which they don't want to do. Tor might have trouble resigning Matthews if their cap is eaten by Karl. Sea is a maybe but I don't see them as desperate enough. Logically, Pit is the only real option (imo). If there were others, Karl would have moved by now.
Yes, risks are part of the trade but the riskier it is, the less you should pay. Everyone knows the quad chart of risk vs reward. Karl is high reward but high risk, mitigating his value.
How is Karl worse than Burns? Karl is better at scoring, Burns is better at playing defense and has missed 7 games in 9 years. Both had NTC and can choose their new home. Both had limited suitors. I think they are quite similar in value.
People keep calling him the Norris winner. That's great. But there are about 30 defenseman I would prefer over Karl, that have no Norris trophies to their name. Karl is the best on the block, but that doesn't mean the Pens should trade the farm for him.
But hey, your opinion is yours. I won't deny it from you.