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Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 31 juill. 2023
Publié: 31 juill. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. Wilson, Tom
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WSH)
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  1. Guentzel, Jake (3 000 000 $ retained)
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  1. Järnkrok, Calle
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WSH)
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31 juill. 2023 à 16 h 39
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i'm sure you'll get about 30 of these replies, but it's a no from the Caps smile
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31 juill. 2023 à 16 h 40
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Doesn't work for Washington and the Pens trade doesn't work for the Leafs
31 juill. 2023 à 16 h 42
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The Pens have stated they are in win now to maximize the remaining years of 87, 71, and 58. This accomplishes the opposite of that by giving away they're best scoring forward not named Crosby or Malkin. Therefore Pens say no.
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31 juill. 2023 à 16 h 44
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I think the pens would say no, not that it isn’t good value but I think they want to add impact players with Crosby/Malkin/Letang at the end of their careers. Moving Guentzel makes them worse and while the futures are nice, I think they’d rather just keep him.
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31 juill. 2023 à 16 h 44
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no, only way it is considered is if Nylander is involved lol
31 juill. 2023 à 16 h 47
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HEEEEEEEELL NO!
WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING
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31 juill. 2023 à 16 h 48
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Also moving Nylander for Wilson is hilarious... would be a downgrade for the leafs.
31 juill. 2023 à 16 h 53
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As long as Crosby is on the roster, Guentzel will not be traded
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31 juill. 2023 à 16 h 59
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Quoting: BoringBrianMacLellan
i'm sure you'll get about 30 of these replies, but it's a no from the Caps smile


Definitely gonna get 30 replies with all the double replies...
31 juill. 2023 à 17 h 0
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Another day another leafs fan proposing the same Wilson trade...
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31 juill. 2023 à 17 h 16
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It's funny how Caps fans make Wilson out to be this huge difference maker for them. Since he signed his current contract, the caps haven't won anything. You guys love to throw out that if he played in TO he would automatically be a 30 goal 60 point player, which has not ever done. And one guy today said he's apparently carrying Ovie and Kuz and that's why he hasn't done so.

Wilson is not worth Nylander, and never will be. You don't trade a player that makes everyone around him better for a guy that needs better players to make him special. On his own Wilson is just a big hitting machine. In the bottom 6 he's a 30 point player. If he finds chemistry in a top 6, he may score 50 points. But that's entirely due to the better players he's playing with.
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31 juill. 2023 à 17 h 16
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Another day another leafs fan proposing the same Wilson trade...


And it's terrible for TO
31 juill. 2023 à 17 h 16
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Also moving Nylander for Wilson is hilarious... would be a downgrade for the leafs.


A massive one
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31 juill. 2023 à 17 h 17
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Quoting: BoringBrianMacLellan
i'm sure you'll get about 30 of these replies, but it's a no from the Caps smile


Cap fans are just hell bent on the team not being good.
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31 juill. 2023 à 17 h 36
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Wow! Multiple times you’ve made this same awful trade in one day!! Congrats!
31 juill. 2023 à 17 h 39
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I think the pens would say no, not that it isn’t good value but I think they want to add impact players with Crosby/Malkin/Letang at the end of their careers. Moving Guentzel makes them worse and while the futures are nice, I think they’d rather just keep him.


Yeah but if they’re out of a playoff position they gotta consider 2 1sts
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unless Nylander is coming back, 0 shot we move guentzel, and even if he is still doubt we do it
31 juill. 2023 à 17 h 42
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unless Nylander is coming back, 0 shot we move guentzel, and even if he is still doubt we do it


What if you’re out of playoff spot they gotta consider 2 firsts
31 juill. 2023 à 18 h 5
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Please stop sending a trash can and a 1st for Nylander... It doesn't make the Leafs better and it doesn't help them cap wise...

The Pens say no to that trade only bc of them trying to win with Crosby... I also think that the Leafs should do Nylander for Gentzel+ instead of you're hell bent on getting Guentzel
31 juill. 2023 à 18 h 21
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Please stop sending a trash can and a 1st for Nylander... It doesn't make the Leafs better and it doesn't help them cap wise...

The Pens say no to that trade only bc of them trying to win with Crosby... I also think that the Leafs should do Nylander for Gentzel+ instead of you're hell bent on getting Guentzel


Primary target is Tom Wilson
31 juill. 2023 à 18 h 22
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Yeah but if they’re out of a playoff position they gotta consider 2 1sts


I suppose they could if they knew they were significantly out of the playoff race and he wasn’t re signing. But if they are slightly out at the deadline they will load up and not sell.
31 juill. 2023 à 18 h 23
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It's funny how Caps fans make Wilson out to be this huge difference maker for them. Since he signed his current contract, the caps haven't won anything. You guys love to throw out that if he played in TO he would automatically be a 30 goal 60 point player, which has not ever done. And one guy today said he's apparently carrying Ovie and Kuz and that's why he hasn't done so.

Wilson is not worth Nylander, and never will be. You don't trade a player that makes everyone around him better for a guy that needs better players to make him special. On his own Wilson is just a big hitting machine. In the bottom 6 he's a 30 point player. If he finds chemistry in a top 6, he may score 50 points. But that's entirely due to the better players he's playing with.


Pretty funny how Leafs fans can say anything about players being huge difference makers. Since any of them signed their contracts they haven't won ANYTHING. Obviously Nylander is the better player but the difference between him and Wilson isn't a 1st. Especially when he wants 9.5 mil and everyone knows TO's cap situation. How much PK time does Nylander have? How many times has Nylander completely altered another team's roster? (cough Rangers). Wilson brings a lot more to the game then just points and hitting, which is the reason everyday Leafs fans propose the same trade. Yes Wilson would obsoletely be a 60 pt player on TO and Nylander probably wouldn't be a 90 pt player on any team but TO or like the Oilers.
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Quoting: jazzykiwi
Pretty funny how Leafs fans can say anything about players being huge difference makers. Since any of them signed their contracts they haven't won ANYTHING. Obviously Nylander is the better player but the difference between him and Wilson isn't a 1st. Especially when he wants 9.5 mil and everyone knows TO's cap situation. How much PK time does Nylander have? How many times has Nylander completely altered another team's roster? (cough Rangers). Wilson brings a lot more to the game then just points and hitting, which is the reason everyday Leafs fans propose the same trade. Yes Wilson would obsoletely be a 60 pt player on TO and Nylander probably wouldn't be a 90 pt player on any team but TO or like the Oilers.


I hoping for this response. Of all fan bases in the league you think the caps would be the most likely to know patience is important. How long did it take Washington to something in the ovechkin era? 10 years. The leafs core is still building towards something special. Hopefully they won't be a 1 and done core though.
31 juill. 2023 à 18 h 33
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Quoting: SomeonesOffended
Primary target is Tom Wilson


That's the issue
 
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