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Créé par: lyc4n
Équipe: 2023-24 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 26 juill. 2023
Publié: 26 juill. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
NJD
  1. Hellebuyck, Connor (3 000 000 $ retained)
WPG
  1. Holtz, Alexander
  2. Schmid, Akira
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
Rachats de contrats
Frais appliqués
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2183 500 000 $79 827 500 $422 500 $925 000 $3 672 500 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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8 800 000 $8 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 8
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
C
UFA - 4
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2 125 000 $2 125 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $
AG
RFA - 1
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3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
775 000 $775 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
3 166 667 $3 166 667 $
G
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DG/DD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance925 000 $$925K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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26 juill. 2023 à 10 h 36
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Not even a little bit fair. Awful for the Devils.
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26 juill. 2023 à 10 h 45
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Does it make nj cup favs having a top goalie?
26 juill. 2023 à 10 h 45
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Hard pass.
26 juill. 2023 à 10 h 45
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Quoting: lyc4n
Does it make nj cup favs having a top goalie?


Why do so many look at the Devils like they HAVE to win this year? This is a trade that shortens their window. I'd rather have those assets for the term.
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26 juill. 2023 à 10 h 49
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Quoting: lyc4n
Does it make nj cup favs having a top goalie?


Quoting: NJDevils1317
Why do so many look at the Devils like they HAVE to win this year? This is a trade that shortens their window. I'd rather have those assets for the term.


Plus we're already cup favorites. We were top 3 last year and on paper we're better
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26 juill. 2023 à 10 h 49
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Our window is just opening. Last thing we should be doing is selling future core pieces for an unsignable rental.
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26 juill. 2023 à 10 h 50
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I see your point. What if it was a sign and trade something like 7mx5y
26 juill. 2023 à 10 h 51
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Jets say no. Its Holtz, 1st and Vanecek plus another piece if WPG is retaining
26 juill. 2023 à 10 h 53
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Quoting: NJDevils1317
Why do so many look at the Devils like they HAVE to win this year? This is a trade that shortens their window. I'd rather have those assets for the term.


Jack and Nico, mid-twenties!! Nemec may retire before he plays. Before we know it, whole franchise has packed up and moved back to Colorado. Doom!

(In reality…we were the youngest team to get to second round in, I believe, 6-7 years…and for two straight seasons were youngest team in league…it’s weird how so many see NJD as aging).
26 juill. 2023 à 10 h 55
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Quoting: lyc4n
I see your point. What if it was a sign and trade something like 7mx5y


That makes it better…still gotta take Holtz and Schmid out of deal though. Goalies do not normally return as much as people think. Also, he wants $9.5m x 8 extension (so he probably would consider $7m x 5).

I just don’t see a Hellebuyck trade this year.
26 juill. 2023 à 10 h 56
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Quoting: Jetman
Jets say no. Its Holtz, 1st and Vanecek plus another piece if WPG is retaining


Can you explain why WPG would want the older, more expensive, goaltender?
26 juill. 2023 à 11 h 9
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Devils should target Swayman.
26 juill. 2023 à 11 h 23
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Quoting: Jetman
Jets say no. Its Holtz, 1st and Vanecek plus another piece if WPG is retaining


No chance they'll get a return that good for Helle, cut that in half and it'd be closer.
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26 juill. 2023 à 11 h 28
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
No chance they'll get a return that good for Helle, cut that in half and it'd be closer.


Vanecek is a throw in, NJD dont need him, all he is, is a UFA signing for them, so its a 1st and Holtz(who isnt as good as he should be) and a goalie replacement.
26 juill. 2023 à 11 h 28
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Can you explain why WPG would want the older, more expensive, goaltender?


because they are re-tooling. Schmid has done nothing but surprised in a few games this year.
26 juill. 2023 à 11 h 30
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
Plus we're already cup favorites. We were top 3 last year and on paper we're better


Can’t call yourself cup favorites when the Canes have better odds and just smoked the Devils in the playoffs
26 juill. 2023 à 11 h 44
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Can’t call yourself cup favorites when the Canes have better odds and just smoked the Devils in the playoffs


I meant a cup favorite, not the cup favorite. I think there's no question that the top 2 teams in the league are the Hurricanes and Devils, in that order.
26 juill. 2023 à 11 h 50
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I meant a cup favorite, not the cup favorite. I think there's no question that the top 2 teams in the league are the Hurricanes and Devils, in that order.


Yea, I'd still put Colorado and Vegas up there but Devils are at least top 3-4
26 juill. 2023 à 12 h 9
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Quoting: Jetman
Vanecek is a throw in, NJD dont need him, all he is, is a UFA signing for them, so its a 1st and Holtz(who isnt as good as he should be) and a goalie replacement.


There isn't much of a market for Hellebuyck so doubt the return will be great and Vanecek isn't a cap dump so he has value, also I'm not sure NJ wants to trade Vanecek as I think they might want to run a Helle/Vanecek tandem and have Schmid developing in the minors for the season.
26 juill. 2023 à 14 h 51
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Quoting: Jetman
Jets say no. Its Holtz, 1st and Vanecek plus another piece if WPG is retaining


? Schmid has more value than vitek
26 juill. 2023 à 14 h 55
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Jets take this and run imo probably fair value with the retention, Devil's fans probably say pass as they over value holtz a bit, also doubt they'd give up their goalie of the future
26 juill. 2023 à 18 h 20
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Quoting: Jetman
Vanecek is a throw in, NJD dont need him, all he is, is a UFA signing for them, so its a 1st and Holtz(who isnt as good as he should be) and a goalie replacement.


Do you not know who Akira Schmid is
26 juill. 2023 à 20 h 2
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Do you not know who Akira Schmid is


Yah, he is a 18 game backup... hardly any experience to run him 40 games
26 juill. 2023 à 21 h 53
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Yah, he is a 18 game backup... hardly any experience to run him 40 games


And a top 5 goalie prospect in the league with starter potential
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