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Créé par: theflamesarebetter
Équipe: 2023-24 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 22 juill. 2023
Publié: 22 juill. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Ignore the buyout it was an accident
Transactions
1.
CGY
  1. Couture, Logan (2 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Eklund, William
SJS
  1. Lindholm, Elias
  2. Vladar, Daniel
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (CGY)
2.
CGY
  1. Jokiharju, Henri
  2. Krebs, Peyton
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (BUF)
BUF
  1. Hanifin, Noah
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (CGY)
3.
CGY
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
CAR
    Mikael Backlund
    2200000 retained (
    Rachats de contrats
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    2025
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    2026
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    Formation

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    10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    NMC
    UFA - 8
    Logo de Sharks de San Jose
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    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
    AD, AG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    Logo de Sharks de San Jose
    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    AG
    RFA - 3
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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    RFA - 2
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    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance412 500 $$412K)
    C, AG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
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    NTC
    UFA - 4
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    863 333 $863 333 $
    AG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
    AG, AD, C
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    825 000 $825 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    762 500 $762 500 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
    DG/DD
    NTC
    UFA - 8
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
    DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    813 333 $813 333 $ (Bonis de performance15 000 $$15K)
    G
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    762 500 $762 500 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
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    22 juill. 2023 à 13 h 13
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    You want what will basically be a late 1st for Backlund? No thanks
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    22 juill. 2023 à 13 h 15
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    Can we stop with this foolish trade. No chance San Jose considers this
    22 juill. 2023 à 13 h 18
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    You want what will basically be a late 1st for Backlund? No thanks


    thats literally his market value...
    22 juill. 2023 à 13 h 29
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    Quoting: donald
    thats literally his market value...


    For a rental 3C? No, it ain't
    22 juill. 2023 à 13 h 30
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    You want what will basically be a late 1st for Backlund? No thanks


    Bro what. for almost 50% retained thats a steal
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    22 juill. 2023 à 13 h 35
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    Change it to the Canes 2nd round pick and the Canes will do that. Doubt the Canes move that pick unless it’s at the draft or if it’s for a big enough roster upgrade.
    22 juill. 2023 à 13 h 40
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    For a rental 3C? No, it ain't


    well if my team keeps getting swept in the ecf, ima send over that pick to get a rental vet who is a top 10 defensive forward in the league lol
    22 juill. 2023 à 14 h 5
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    Sabres say NO

    When are u Flames fans gonna give up on this nonsense??
    Buffalo talked to the Flames about Hannifin, & they wanted too much- SO WE MOVED ON
    Went & signed 2 defensemen on July 1st

    Hannifin is no longer a fit for the Sabres
    FIND ANOTHER TEAM
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    22 juill. 2023 à 14 h 18
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    You want what will basically be a late 1st for Backlund? No thanks


    Quite reasonable to get a 2nd round pick for 56 point center who plays 18 mins a night, wins faceoffs and consistently gets selke votes.

    Oh and he's retained.

    I might argue it's not enough
    22 juill. 2023 à 15 h 24
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    Quoting: donald
    well if my team keeps getting swept in the ecf, ima send over that pick to get a rental vet who is a top 10 defensive forward in the league lol


    Ahh, you should try and make the conference finals before you pipe up.
    22 juill. 2023 à 15 h 26
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    Quoting: CorrosionRF
    Bro what. for almost 50% retained thats a steal


    The retention is nice, but retention at the deadline for a team that could be absolutely miles away from competing doesn't mean much. If Backlund was like even 30 and had 2/3 years left, I'd do this absolutely. But a 34 year old rental who fills the same role as Jordan Staal? Not worth what is basically a late 1st
    22 juill. 2023 à 18 h 11
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    The retention is nice, but retention at the deadline for a team that could be absolutely miles away from competing doesn't mean much. If Backlund was like even 30 and had 2/3 years left, I'd do this absolutely. But a 34 year old rental who fills the same role as Jordan Staal? Not worth what is basically a late 1st


    oh ya because staal is comparable to a guy who had 20 more points then him and a past selke finalist. If you cant value a high second for a guy that fills a hole in your lineup, then idk what to tell you. looking back at the straight comedy that tkachuk served the canes, everytime you guys had your shutdown line on in a desperation shift they would just get served, mainly because the canes middle 6 lacks a qb like him
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    22 juill. 2023 à 18 h 26
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    Quoting: donald
    oh ya because staal is comparable to a guy who had 20 more points then him and a past selke finalist. If you cant value a high second for a guy that fills a hole in your lineup, then idk what to tell you. looking back at the straight comedy that tkachuk served the canes, everytime you guys had your shutdown line on in a desperation shift they would just get served, mainly because the canes middle 6 lacks a qb like him


    Have a look at where Jordan Staal was in the Selke voting from this last year... if you don't want to, it was 4th... he's as good if not better defensively than Backlund. Staal's offense isn't as strong, absolutely fair enough, but Staal is one of the strongest play drivers in the league. His line with Martinook and Fast that saw a ton of top line opponents was one of the best in the NHL. Look at what they did to Jack Hughes and the Devils.

    Tkachuk didn't do much against the Canes outside of the 2 big goals. Oh, and that was a Canes team without Svechnikov and a Teravainen that had a broken hand...
    23 juill. 2023 à 2 h 3
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    You want what will basically be a late 1st for Backlund? No thanks


    Backlund is like “Bergeron light” with his 2-way play, so that’s totally reasonable or close, especially if you re-sign him in which case it may be too little
    23 juill. 2023 à 10 h 15
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    For a rental 3C? No, it ain't


    If the Flames were offering to take 50% off Backlunds salary the trade would be more than a 2nd.
    23 juill. 2023 à 13 h 2
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    Quoting: Real_MC_Hockey
    Backlund is like “Bergeron light” with his 2-way play, so that’s totally reasonable or close, especially if you re-sign him in which case it may be too little


    Backlund is a Jordan Staal esque player... they're the same age, both monsters defensively, both great leaders, Backlund has a little more offense, but he's not worth what is basically a late 1st
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    23 juill. 2023 à 13 h 3
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    Quoting: Westerner69
    If the Flames were offering to take 50% off Backlunds salary the trade would be more than a 2nd.


    The Philly 2nd, which is basically a late 1st? No.
    23 juill. 2023 à 14 h 45
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    Have a look at where Jordan Staal was in the Selke voting from this last year... if you don't want to, it was 4th... he's as good if not better defensively than Backlund. Staal's offense isn't as strong, absolutely fair enough, but Staal is one of the strongest play drivers in the league. His line with Martinook and Fast that saw a ton of top line opponents was one of the best in the NHL. Look at what they did to Jack Hughes and the Devils.

    Tkachuk didn't do much against the Canes outside of the 2 big goals. Oh, and that was a Canes team without Svechnikov and a Teravainen that had a broken hand...


    dude what he was literally 11th? where did u get he was fourth lol? and youre acting like "2 big goals" isnt what ended your guys season, in fact he scored 4, would you even know that? did you just stop watching after 2 games... and only a sorry fan would throw in two injuries and like that was the diference maker to them getting swept lmao
    23 juill. 2023 à 14 h 50
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    dude what he was literally 11th? where did u get he was fourth lol? and youre acting like "2 big goals" isnt what ended your guys season, in fact he scored 4, would you even know that? did you just stop watching after 2 games... and only a sorry fan would throw in two injuries and like that was the diference maker to them getting swept lmao


    https://www.hockey-reference.com/awards/voting-2023.html#all-selke-stats

    Selke, Staal was 4. Backlund was 6. Hintz was 11,

    You're acting like the Canes losing their second best forward didn't impact them in a series where every goal was a once goal game? I didn't mention Pacioretty. Teravainen had his hand broken in the Islanders series. That's half the top six either unavailable or playing through serious injuries. That's a fact, and it made a huge difference. Say they were all healthy and they each score a single goal. Just one, and Svech probably scores more than that. That series goes to game 7 because each game was a one goal game. Tkachuk had 2 big goals, and he had 4 totals. But you probably weren't watching since the Flames missed again
    23 juill. 2023 à 17 h 58
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    Backlund is a Jordan Staal esque player... they're the same age, both monsters defensively, both great leaders, Backlund has a little more offense, but he's not worth what is basically a late 1st


    Yes but he is fitter and has the offense
    23 juill. 2023 à 18 h 59
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    Quoting: Real_MC_Hockey
    Yes but he is fitter and has the offense


    Staal is the fitter player... he's the fittest dude on the Canes and is the only one who can keep up with Rod
     
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