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Équipe: 2023-24 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 20 juill. 2023
Publié: 20 juill. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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EDM
  1. Hellebuyck, Connor (3 000 000 $ retained)
WPG
  1. Brind'Amour, Skyler [Liste de réserve]
  2. Foegele, Warren
  3. McLeod, Ryan [Droits de RFA]
  4. Skinner, Stuart
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
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EDM
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (CGY)
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EDM
    future considerations
    CHI
    1. Campbell, Jack
    2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
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    4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2026 (EDM)
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    20 juill. 2023 à 23 h 16
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    So, nothing of value outside of a 1st for Hellebuyck? Somehow I don't see the Jets considering.
    20 juill. 2023 à 23 h 25
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    Quoting: Windjammer
    So, nothing of value outside of a 1st for Hellebuyck? Somehow I don't see the Jets considering.


    Windy, my boy, Skinner may very well be a nice long term goalie. But yes, the rest are scraps. Could be hard to turn down a first, Skinner and another solid prospect.
    20 juill. 2023 à 23 h 35
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    Quoting: Prime_Jimbo
    Windy, my boy, Skinner may very well be a nice long term goalie. But yes, the rest are scraps. Could be hard to turn down a first, Skinner and another solid prospect.


    If elite goalies aren't worth much as everyone likes to tell Jet fans. Then Skinner is almost worthless.

    But a first is a good start, Skinner would need to be a part of it, but there would need to be a pretty good prospect as well, which Edmonton doesn't have.
    20 juill. 2023 à 23 h 46
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    Quoting: Windjammer
    If elite goalies aren't worth much as everyone likes to tell Jet fans. Then Skinner is almost worthless.

    But a first is a good start, Skinner would need to be a part of it, but there would need to be a pretty good prospect as well, which Edmonton doesn't have.


    Agreed, he's a stallion. But, Helly isn't doing the Jets any favors with $9.5M floating around. A lot of teams would see him as a rental. Maybe that bodes well for the Jets though and he re-signs for less. Seems like the Jets want to keep going for it.
    20 juill. 2023 à 23 h 51
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    Quoting: Windjammer
    So, nothing of value outside of a 1st for Hellebuyck? Somehow I don't see the Jets considering.


    Ur on crack lol the jets Accept this as fast they could that would be the biggest overpay off all time
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    20 juill. 2023 à 23 h 54
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    Quoting: Prime_Jimbo
    Windy, my boy, Skinner may very well be a nice long term goalie. But yes, the rest are scraps. Could be hard to turn down a first, Skinner and another solid prospect.


    The rest are scraps are you absolutely blind did u not see Mcleoud in the deal lol
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    20 juill. 2023 à 23 h 54
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    There's zero chance of Connor Hellebuyck committing long term with Edmonton, Don't know how many ties it needs to be said. That Hellebuyck wants the States only plus be close to his Detroit area home. And New Jersey would be the perfect spot for him. So trading both Campbell and Skinner for a one year rental makes absolutely zero sense.
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    20 juill. 2023 à 23 h 55
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    Quoting: Prime_Jimbo
    Agreed, he's a stallion. But, Helly isn't doing the Jets any favors with $9.5M floating around. A lot of teams would see him as a rental. Maybe that bodes well for the Jets though and he re-signs for less. Seems like the Jets want to keep going for it.


    Yeah, I'd imagine the most likely scenario is that Hellebuyck stays to start the season. I'm 50/50 on him resigning.
    20 juill. 2023 à 23 h 58
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    The rest are scraps are you absolutely blind did u not see Mcleoud in the deal lol


    Lol that might have been harsh. Not sure his ceiling though. Is he a good bottom 6 player or does he have more? I guess time will tell.
    21 juill. 2023 à 0 h 2
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    Jets take that deal in a heartbeat lol
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    21 juill. 2023 à 0 h 18
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    Quoting: Prime_Jimbo
    Lol that might have been harsh. Not sure his ceiling though. Is he a good bottom 6 player or does he have more? I guess time will tell.


    I’m sorry for being a little harsh but that package is absolutely an overpay if I’ve ever seen one
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    21 juill. 2023 à 1 h 0
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    Jets would be crazy to pass on that if ol crazy Ken Holland offered it.
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    21 juill. 2023 à 1 h 1
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    So you think the Hawks would take on four years of Campbell at $5m per and not get at least one 1st round pick?

    Add a 1st and Holloway to the package and Chicago may accept.
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    21 juill. 2023 à 2 h 3
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    Jets will have to take that
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    21 juill. 2023 à 8 h 40
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    lol
    21 juill. 2023 à 9 h 3
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    Hawks easily decline. Taking Campbell probably requires the equivalent of two 1st rounders
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    21 juill. 2023 à 9 h 4
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    Quoting: Windjammer
    So, nothing of value outside of a 1st for Hellebuyck? Somehow I don't see the Jets considering.

    Looks like you got outranked. Pretty dumb comment, anyone who followed NHL would know that Skinner has more value than the first. McLeod is turning into a pretty nice young player with size and speed (you honestly mistake him for McDavid through the neutral zone). Foegele's 2.09 P/60 at 5v5 was better than any Jet not named Ehlers last year, plus he was top-10 in the entire league for ixG/60, iHDCF/60 and takeaways/60.

    Nothing of value? Open your eyes!

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    Jets take that deal in a heartbeat lol


    Quoting: MisstheWhalers
    Jets would be crazy to pass on that if ol crazy Ken Holland offered it.


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    Jets will have to take that
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    21 juill. 2023 à 9 h 19
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    Looks like you got outranked. Pretty dumb comment, anyone who followed NHL would know that Skinner has more value than the first. McLeod is turning into a pretty nice young player with size and speed (you honestly mistake him for McDavid through the neutral zone). Foegele's 2.09 P/60 at 5v5 was better than any Jet not named Ehlers last year, plus he was top-10 in the entire league for ixG/60, iHDCF/60 and takeaways/60.

    Nothing of value? Open your eyes!


    I'll stand by my record. I was right on the Laine and PLD trades when many of these same guys said the Jets would get less. They're just overly pessimistic. The Jets won't give Hellebuyck away for nothing, like this offer, especially when you want retention without paying for it. they'd be better off just keeping him

    As everyone keep saying, goalies don't have much value. So, a marginal goalie like Skinner has very little. No GM in their right mind is giving up a first for him.

    Outside of the first, it's plugs and nothing prospects.
    21 juill. 2023 à 9 h 24
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    Quoting: Windjammer
    I'll stand by my record. I was right on the Laine and PLD trades when many of these same guys said the Jets would get less. They're just overly pessimistic. The Jets won't give Hellebuyck away for nothing, like this offer, especially when you want retention without paying for it. they'd be better off just keeping him

    As everyone keep saying, goalies don't have much value. So, a marginal goalie like Skinner has very little. No GM in their right mind is giving up a first for him.

    Outside of the first, it's plugs and nothing prospects.

    Another L take google is free bro just figure who u are getting before making another stupid comment like this one
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    21 juill. 2023 à 9 h 31
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    Another L take google is free bro just figure who u are getting before making another stupid comment like this one


    Any time you're offering 5 pieces for 1. You know the 5 pieces have little to no value. The Jets likely opt for a first and one quality piece.
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    21 juill. 2023 à 9 h 34
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    Quoting: Windjammer
    Any time you're offering 5 pieces for 1. You know the 5 pieces have little to no value.

    This is a random person who made that trade offer not Kenny Holland lmao everyone who has common hockey knowledge would accept that if they were the jets
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    21 juill. 2023 à 9 h 34
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    Quoting: Windjammer
    Any time you're offering 5 pieces for 1. You know the 5 pieces have little to no value. The Jets likely opt for a first and one quality piece.


    Once again bro google is free please do ur own research before making more dumb comments
    21 juill. 2023 à 9 h 47
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    Quoting: Windjammer
    I'll stand by my record. I was right on the Laine and PLD trades when many of these same guys said the Jets would get less. They're just overly pessimistic. The Jets won't give Hellebuyck away for nothing, like this offer, especially when you want retention without paying for it. they'd be better off just keeping him

    As everyone keep saying, goalies don't have much value. So, a marginal goalie like Skinner has very little. No GM in their right mind is giving up a first for him.

    Outside of the first, it's plugs and nothing prospects.

    Nobody here is saying the Jets should give Hellebuyck away for nothing though, you're fighting a strawman there. The issue everyone has with your comments is with your ignorance regarding Edmonton's players. The simple fact is that a 24 year old goalie with a .914 sv% is already an overpay for a rental 30 year old who has a .920 sv% and ridiculous contract demands for his next deal.

    Ryan McLeod had a better scoring rate at 5v5 than Dubois last season. Foegele had a better scoring rate at 5v5 than any Jets forward except Ehlers. Yet these things are "plugs" to you?

    Just stop, you're only digging a hole.
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    21 juill. 2023 à 10 h 14
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    Nobody here is saying the Jets should give Hellebuyck away for nothing though, you're fighting a strawman there. The issue everyone has with your comments is with your ignorance regarding Edmonton's players. The simple fact is that a 24 year old goalie with a .914 sv% is already an overpay for a rental 30 year old who has a .920 sv% and ridiculous contract demands for his next deal.

    Ryan McLeod had a better scoring rate at 5v5 than Dubois last season. Foegele had a better scoring rate at 5v5 than any Jets forward except Ehlers. Yet these things are "plugs" to you?

    Just stop, you're only digging a hole.


    Sure you are. Why are you so in favour of this deal? Because you know the Oilers are robbing the Jets.

    Skinner is alright, but I wouldn't want the Jets overpaying based on 50 games. There's a very good chance that now that players have a book on Skinner, he turns into Binnington.

    Hellebuyck won't be traded as a rental before the season, I know that and you know that. You're just using that as your straw man to justify a lowball offer. If you want Helle, you'll need to pay an extended price. Whether Helle world extend in Edmonton, I don't know.

    McLeod will be 24 when the season starts and has 138 games and 45 points to his name. A solid 27 point producer. Again you know and I know, players like McLeod are a dime a dozen, with a value of around a 3rd or less. I don't blame you for trying to sell high on him, but GM's see him for what he is. A 3rd/4th line plug.

    Foegele a 29 point a year rental. No value to Winnipeg.

    Take off the Edmonton goggles and evaluate the players you're giving up objectively and you'd see the term 'plugs" is very apt.

    As I said when you're giving up 5 pieces to try and get 1, you know the 5 pieces are relatively worthless.

    The Jets would opt for a 1st at least one quality young piece as opposed to a 1st and stuff you are willing to part with because you know they haven't lived up to their potential and/or you just don't want anymore. Trades don't work like that.
    21 juill. 2023 à 10 h 18
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    Quoting: Windjammer
    Sure you are. Why are you so in favour of this deal? Because you know the Oilers are robbing the Jets.

    I'm NOT in favor of the deal. That should have been obvious. I think it's a terrible deal for Edmonton.

    The ONLY comments in favor of the deal are from JETS FANS.

    shakes head
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