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Athletic Writers early playoff predictions

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Date de création initiale: 15 juill. 2023
Publié: 15 juill. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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This was made using a % of their writers putting a team in the playoffs. Some teams at the bottom were tied at 0 and so don't pay much attention to who places higher between teams like the Ducks and Sharks.
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M-NTC
UFA - 2
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AD
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
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C
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
775 000 $775 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Panthers de la Floride
896 667 $896 667 $ (Bonis de performance80 000 $$80K)
DG
RFA - 3
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762 500 $762 500 $
AG
UFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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888 888 $888 888 $
Logo de Islanders de New York
825 000 $825 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
4 975 000 $4 975 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Capitals de Washington
825 000 $825 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
925 000 $925 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
850 833 $850 833 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
785 000 $785 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
950 000 $950 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Stars de Dallas
825 000 $825 000 $
C
RFA - 3
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
897 500 $897 500 $
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
867 500 $867 500 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
C
RFA - 3
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
DG
UFA - 8
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888 888 $888 888 $
Logo de Kraken de Seattle
775 000 $775 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Predators de Nashville
789 167 $789 167 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
C, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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809 444 $809 444 $
C
RFA - 1
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888 888 $888 888 $
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
2 166 667 $2 166 667 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
883 750 $883 750 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
825 000 $825 000 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DG
RFA - 3
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
775 000 $775 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
775 000 $775 000 $
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UFA - 1
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15 juill. 2023 à 14 h 57
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Pretty accurate. Columbus will be higher tho
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15 juill. 2023 à 15 h 16
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Just looking at the Atlantic, Tampa and Boston too high, Buffalo and Detroit and Toronto too low
15 juill. 2023 à 15 h 19
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
Just looking at the Atlantic, Tampa and Boston too high, Buffalo and Detroit and Toronto too low


They have Toronto and Tampa tied at 93,5% and Boston/Florida tied at 77.4%. You can flip those around if it makes you feel better.
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15 juill. 2023 à 15 h 47
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They have Toronto and Tampa tied at 93,5% and Boston/Florida tied at 77.4%. You can flip those around if it makes you feel better.


What is the reasoning on why Tampa is so high
15 juill. 2023 à 15 h 54
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15 juill. 2023 à 15 h 56
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What is the reasoning on why Tampa is so high


I'd imagine it's some kind of mix of Kucherov, Point, Stamkos, Vasilevsky, Cirelli, Sergachev and Hedman.
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15 juill. 2023 à 15 h 57
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I'd imagine it's some kind of mix of Kucherov, Point, Stamkos, Vasilevsky, Cirelli, Sergachev and Hedman.


But that's all they have
15 juill. 2023 à 16 h 0
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
But that's all they have


While the Leafs have Matthews, Marner, Tavares, Nylander, Bertuzzi, Rielly ... and I chose 7 from Tampa so you can pick one more name out that you think I forgot. The Leafs and Lightning aren't in all that difference of situations. A core who's being paid and will carry them to a successful regular season/playoff appearance and everyone else. Tampa's is just better separated between offense/defense/goaltending.
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15 juill. 2023 à 16 h 5
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Heh. One of the worst playoff predicting staffs around.
15 juill. 2023 à 16 h 6
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Heh. One of the worst playoff predicting staffs around.


They got the Blues right last season after you complained about it then too.
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15 juill. 2023 à 16 h 8
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While the Leafs have Matthews, Marner, Tavares, Nylander, Bertuzzi, Rielly ... and 1 chose 7 from Tampa so you can pick one more name out that you think I forgot. The Leafs and Lightning aren't in all that difference of situations. A core who's being paid and will carry them to a successful regular season/playoff appearance and everyone else. Tampa's is just better separated between offense/defense/goaltending.


Which forward core do you prefer:
Stamkos-Point-Kucherov
Hagel-Cerrelli-Sheary
Eyssimont-Paul-Jeannot
Koepke-Glendening-Archibald

or:
Jarnkrok-Matthews-Nylander
Bertuzzi-Tavares-Marner
Domi-Kampf-Knies
Lafferty-Holmberg-Reaves

Which DCore do you prefer:
Hedman-Perbix
Sergachev-Cernak
De Haan-Bogosian

or:
Rielly-Brodie
McCabe-Klingberg
Gio-Lilly

Toronto's DCore and offensive core's objectively better but the 1 argument you would have is Vasy vs Sammy (where Sammy outplayed Vasy in the playoffs) and right now, Toronto's core players are better than Tampa's
15 juill. 2023 à 16 h 9
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Heh. One of the worst playoff predicting staffs around.


Actually I had to go back and look at last seasons thread for the fun of it. Your take back then:

Quote:
Zero changes in the East, one in the West. Well, at least they finally wised up on Seattle.


If the Athletic is 'the worst', I guess we shouldn't put much faith in your takes either.
15 juill. 2023 à 16 h 10
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Which forward core do you prefer:
Stamkos-Point-Kucherov
Hagel-Cerrelli-Sheary
Eyssimont-Paul-Jeannot
Koepke-Glendening-Archibald

or:
Jarnkrok-Matthews-Nylander
Bertuzzi-Tavares-Marner
Domi-Kampf-Knies
Lafferty-Holmberg-Reaves

Which DCore do you prefer:
Hedman-Perbix
Sergachev-Cernak
De Haan-Bogosian

or:
Rielly-Brodie
McCabe-Klingberg
Gio-Lilly

Toronto's DCore and offensive core's objectively better but the 1 argument you would have is Vasy vs Sammy (where Sammy outplayed Vasy in the playoffs) and right now, Toronto's core players are better than Tampa's


That's a very homerish take. The Leafs Dcore isn't very strong this year and is easily worse than Tampas. The forwards aren't all that far off from each other, they are both the top 6 and everyone else, and Tampa's goaltending is better.
15 juill. 2023 à 16 h 43
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That's a very homerish take. The Leafs Dcore isn't very strong this year and is easily worse than Tampas. The forwards aren't all that far off from each other, they are both the top 6 and everyone else, and Tampa's goaltending is better.


No it's not a homers take... don't let the cup blinders fool you, Rielly severely underrated and is at level, if not better than Hedman. Brodie is way better than Perbix, Sergachev is a little better than McCabe but Klingberg is better than Cernak, Gio is vastly better than De Haan and Lilly is better than Bogosian. the Leafs DCore is so much better than Tampa's

The forwards on the Leafs are so much better than the ones on Tampa.

Line 1 is equal
Line 2 goes to Toronto
Line 3 goes to Toronto
Line 4 goes to Toronto

If last year's playoffs show any indication on how Vasy is, goaltending would go to Toronto but easy being easy pulls it into Carolina's favour
15 juill. 2023 à 17 h 9
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No it's not a homers take... don't let the cup blinders fool you, Rielly severely underrated and is at level, if not better than Hedman. Brodie is way better than Perbix, Sergachev is a little better than McCabe but Klingberg is better than Cernak, Gio is vastly better than De Haan and Lilly is better than Bogosian. the Leafs DCore is so much better than Tampa's


I'm sorry. I can't take you seriously.
15 juill. 2023 à 17 h 15
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If last year's playoffs show any indication on how Vasy is, goaltending would go to Toronto but easy being easy pulls it into Carolina's favour


Come on dude...everything up to this was fair and totally reasonable, if not right to think. But....you're really gonna even roughly imply that a 6 game sample size means Vasy is gonna be worse than Samsonov now? Like....at all...
15 juill. 2023 à 17 h 18
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Come on dude...everything up to this was fair and totally reasonable, if not right to think. But....you're really gonna even roughly imply that a 6 game sample size means Vasy is gonna be worse than Samsonov now? Like....at all...


I said "If last year's playoffs was any indication" to begin with, but I had a couple typos that meant to say: but Vasy being Vasy puts it in Tampa's favour, not that Vasy is the worse goalie, just that, in the playoffs, in that series, Vasy was the 2nd best goalie
15 juill. 2023 à 17 h 19
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I'm sorry. I can't take you seriously.


That Toronto is better than Tampa on paper?
15 juill. 2023 à 17 h 24
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I said "If last year's playoffs was any indication" to begin with, but I had a couple typos that meant to say: but Vasy being Vasy puts it in Tampa's favour, not that Vasy is the worse goalie, just that, in the playoffs, in that series, Vasy was the 2nd best goalie


I mean it's just not worth pointing out unless you're trying to suggest that he is. It's no secret Vasy played like crap I'm that series, but there's literally 0 expectation Samsonov will be better going forward.

The only reason to mention the goalies at all like that is to sneakily try and suggest further for Toronto being better.
15 juill. 2023 à 17 h 31
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I mean it's just not worth pointing out unless you're trying to suggest that he is. It's no secret Vasy played like crap I'm that series, but there's literally 0 expectation Samsonov will be better going forward.

The only reason to mention the goalies at all like that is to sneakily try and suggest further for Toronto being better.


It's not, it's more of a concern considering he was 8-9-3 in his last 20 starts in the RS with a .906 save percentage and a 2.9 GAA also concerns me... Besides that, Vasy will still be Vasy and should be fine
15 juill. 2023 à 17 h 34
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It's not, it's more of a concern considering he was 8-9-3 in his last 20 starts in the RS with a .906 save percentage and a 2.9 GAA also concerns me... Besides that, Vasy will still be Vasy and should be fine


It's con contradictory to say these 2 things together. It's like you wanna say Vasy fell off and isn't as good now, but.you don't have the confidence or balls to actually say it.
15 juill. 2023 à 17 h 41
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It's con contradictory to say these 2 things together. It's like you wanna say Vasy fell off and isn't as good now, but.you don't have the confidence or balls to actually say it.


Because I don't believe it, I'm saying that there are concerns to his game that he should be addressing bc he struggled.

I 100% have the confidence and balls to say that a player isn't as good as advertised... I've said that about guys like: Mitch Marner, Cole Caufield, Connor McDavid, The top 6 in EDM, Pettersson, Hughes (2/3 anyway), the Tkachuks, Wilson etc.

I believe Vasy is better, I do have my concerns about him though just like I do with Sammy and other goalies in the league
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15 juill. 2023 à 17 h 51
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This is very reasonable, like it or not
15 juill. 2023 à 19 h 4
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Quoting: Byrr
Actually I had to go back and look at last seasons thread for the fun of it. Your take back then:



If the Athletic is 'the worst', I guess we shouldn't put much faith in your takes either.


Cool beans. Now do more than one year where everyone's bracket was shredded. And just for the record, there were two different East playoff teams and three in the West, so my jibe about them just picking 15 of the 16 as returnees being silly was quite correct.

Besides, I was comparing them to other outlets, not to run of the mill Joes. Any way you slice it's not like I always just pick my favorite team every season like half the staff there does.
 
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