Zadorov does not hold that much value. Guys a 3rd pair defender

I thought that too, but Toronto doesn't have much else of value to trade for him and I've heard rumors of Tre being interested in him

The value is close without Chytil! Either way pass

NYR really can’t afford him and keep their youth. If there was no cap then I’d do this all day long but… reality is different

Rangers pass because they cannot afford an 8m x 8 extension plus Chytil isn't going anywhere.

Flames do not have a replacement 1C like Elias Pettersson to do a trade like the Horvat deal. If Lindholm is moved it should be for picks and prospects only. If the team can't afford him at 4.85M then we can take back cap or retain for a better return.

If Lindholm is traded Calgary is forced to rebuild. Not debatable. Unless Aho or Matthews hit the market there is no one available any time soon of that can replace Lindholm externally

I agree they should do that, but as Flames fan we know the Flames are not a smart, well run team. Are you aware of 2009-2013? It took 4 years of missing the playoffs and Iggy/Kipper both leaving before we rebuilt. Ownership hasn't changed and neither has the team's aversion to rebuild

That doesn't mean he's going to let himself get bent over

Sabres aren’t trading for Hanafin
We explored the idea & went on a different direction

Was a long shot to begin with, as Dahlin & Power are also gonna cost is A LOT, in Cap space
Getting a 3rd defenseman that would carry a big Cap number was always a reach for us- an u likely one at that

Respectfully, IF you're modeling after the Horvat trade, then swap Chytil for Goodrow. I wouldn't want to lose Cuylle; this deal fits fully, inhibiting neither club (Cuylle/Goodrow for Lindholm).

Lol Goodrow? The guy Ranger fans have been offering picks to get of all summer? Oh come on don't be ridiculous

Lindy is not staying in Calgary. You're getting the same level of experience you lost with Lucic, at a pricetag nearly $2 million dollars less. Cuylle is not a scant prospect: NHL size, good skater, hitter and has a quality shot.

Getting these two does not inhibit Calgary. Lindholm doesn't want to play there, anymore. Kadri, Ruszicka, Huberdeau and Pelletier seem like they're the core for the team's present/future.

Yeah you’re mostly correct. But again, why does any of that mean the Flames should take on Goodrow’s contract? He has negative value for 4 more years

Under a new coach, no one knows how he would be utilized. Placing the idea of "negative value" is a fan view that has ZERO application, without said trade/playtime happening.

I can live with saying "I don't want him!". That's at least honest.

Your point is completely incoherent. Goodrow is a 30 year old overpaid 4th liner, he’s a useful player but his contract gives him negative trade value. If you insist he’s included instead of Chytil, then I would counter by saying you would need to swap out Cuylle with Schneider and to add another first round pick. Because taking on Goodrow’s contract requires significant compensation imo

Once more with feeling:

Saying aloud "I don't want Goodrow!" is more honest that saying "he has negative value" in a trade.

So you think it is a good idea to sign Lindholm to a contract that goes past 35, I'd rather keep Chytil

It would have made more sense a couple of years ago

Just because you keep saying Goodrow has value in a trade doesn’t make it so, if he has value the Rangers would have already traded him this offseason

What is your assurance that they want to? Cap? Seriously, needing players who can play tough minutes and endure through a season, into the playoffs, is exactly why Goodrow was obtained to begin with; not to mention the two Stanley Cup rings.

In the same reasoning Treleving grabbed Coleman, Drury grabbed Goodrow; utilizing them effectively is an entirely different matter. Neither of them has gotten only one goal or spent all season on IR. They each contribute heavily in their minutes, each offering physical contributions in every game situation.

Again, say you don't want Goodrow's cap hit and leave it at that. But saying he has negative value is invalid. And your little cheerleader who keeps putting a like to your statements, needs to grow some and make his own.

Just to be clear, I agree Goodrow is a solid player. I just think taking on his contract would require compensation and I think the idea of him being a key piece in a potential Lindholm trade is absolutely laughable. And i also think Coleman's contract has negative value for the same reasons