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Équipe: 2023-24 Équipe personnalisée
Date de création initiale: 11 juill. 2023
Publié: 11 juill. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Largely based on past 3 seasons.

A few notes before you cry that I left someone from your team off this list.

1. LD is arguably the strongest position in the league right now. Names such as Dahlin, Q Hughes, and Theodore just missed the cut, but they are top 10.

2. Ovechkin and Panarin are barely top 10 at LW (Ovechkin isn't period), Connor, Debrincat, Stamkos, B Tkachuk, etc etc are not nearly as dynamic offensively to be placed on this list.

3. Oiler fans will want my head on a stake for excluding Draisaitl, but the simple fact of the matter is that he is genuinely awful defensively and he does not drive play nearly as well as he needs to make up for it. Everyone at the C position here is better offensively (no, I don't care about points) and far better defensively, even though some may be slightly negative defensively.

4. Yes, Verhaeghe, Bratt, Meier, Weegar, Sprugeon, and Chabot are THAT good.

5. Sorokin is literally the only reason the Islanders are a decent team. Replace him with an average goalie and the Isles are a borderline lottery team. The goalie position in general is also very strong right now. Demko, Ullmark, and Oettinger just missed the cut.
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3083 500 000 $247 899 251 $0 $0 $-164 399 251 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Stars de Dallas
7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Panthers de la Floride
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
8 800 000 $8 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
9 750 000 $9 750 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
12 600 000 $12 600 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo de Bruins de Boston
11 250 000 $11 250 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 8
Logo de Panthers de la Floride
4 166 667 $4 166 667 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
AD, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Predators de Nashville
9 059 000 $9 059 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Rangers de New York
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
Logo de Islanders de New York
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Rangers de New York
5 666 667 $5 666 667 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 8
Logo de Bruins de Boston
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 7
Logo de Predators de Nashville
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
6 166 667 $6 166 667 $
G
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
7 575 000 $7 575 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 5

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11 juill. 2023 à 20 h 56
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Slavin is better than all of those LD with the exception of Josi
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11 juill. 2023 à 20 h 56
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Cale Makar skates circles around every one of those "defensemen"
11 juill. 2023 à 20 h 58
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Ovi is the best winger in the league pal
11 juill. 2023 à 21 h 1
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Angry anger
11 juill. 2023 à 21 h 5
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Chabot and Weegar over Hughes and Dahlin is extremely questionable

Also Marner is definitely a top 5 RW over Bratt
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11 juill. 2023 à 21 h 7
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Having Chabot there and not Hughes or Dahlin is ROUGH. Even Theodore is better. Chabot is not as good as any of them and it isn’t particularly close at this point. I’d say Weegar is below them all as well. Also you saying Draisaitl doesn’t drive play enough is genuinely baffling. Like you didn’t even do your research. Come on now
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11 juill. 2023 à 21 h 8
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JOSH ANDERSON
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11 juill. 2023 à 21 h 9
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Good list.

I love me my Jesper Bratt. He is definitely one of the most exciting to players to watch when he is on. But Mitch Marner is the better player.

Pettersson has probably passed Crosby. His all around game is underrated.

Spurgeon has probably fallen out of the top-10
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11 juill. 2023 à 21 h 10
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I see Verhaeghe respect and will therefore ignore all disagreements I have. W
11 juill. 2023 à 21 h 19
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So you slander Draisital for having a bad defensive game and yet you put Jack ****ing Hughes above him 🤦

Seriously how many drugs were you on to get you to say “Yeah this is totally a good idea”
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11 juill. 2023 à 21 h 23
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So you slander Draisital for having a bad defensive game and yet you put Jack ****ing Hughes above him 🤦

Seriously how many drugs were you on to get you to say “Yeah this is totally a good idea”


Hughes is actually solid defensively in open ice. Is usually among league leaders in takeaways. And when other team never gets puck, they score less.
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11 juill. 2023 à 21 h 25
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apparently you can win the art ross for most points without ''driving play'' . most of drai's assist are primary assist too (by a HUGE margin)
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11 juill. 2023 à 21 h 28
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Hughes is actually solid defensively in open ice. Is usually among league leaders in takeaways. And when other team never gets puck, they score less.


i wont say they are bad, but lets say you cant justify drai not being there while arguing about defense and put Hughes there.
11 juill. 2023 à 21 h 41
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i wont say they are bad, but lets say you cant justify drai not being there while arguing about defense and put Hughes there.


Or put Bratt above Marner and Stone while arguing about the defense. I get it.

I was just saying that Hughes isn’t bad defensively. Skates so well, his open ice defense is great. Not winning many board battles of faceoffs though.
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11 juill. 2023 à 22 h 50
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Ovi is the best winger in the league pal


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Chabot and Weegar over Hughes and Dahlin is extremely questionable

Also Marner is definitely a top 5 RW over Bratt


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11 juill. 2023 à 22 h 52
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Having Chabot there and not Hughes or Dahlin is ROUGH. Even Theodore is better. Chabot is not as good as any of them and it isn’t particularly close at this point. I’d say Weegar is below them all as well. Also you saying Draisaitl doesn’t drive play enough is genuinely baffling. Like you didn’t even do your research. Come on now


Chabot is a dynamic offensive talent, and not even bad defensively. Overall, he is better than all three of those guys.

Draisaitl does not contribute to offense nearly as much as you think he does.
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Quoting: drambui
apparently you can win the art ross for most points without ''driving play'' . most of drai's assist are primary assist too (by a HUGE margin)


Best passer in the game and one of the best goal scorers... "all these guys are better offensively" lol. Something tells me this guy doesn't know much about hockey.
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Or put Bratt above Marner and Stone while arguing about the defense. I get it.

I was just saying that Hughes isn’t bad defensively. Skates so well, his open ice defense is great. Not winning many board battles of faceoffs though.


Bratt's pure offensive ability puts him above Marner and Stone and at the same time, he's not a liability defensively. His offensive ability is that much better than Marner and Stone's to warrant him being better than them.
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Best passe in the game and one of the best goal scorers... "all these guys are better offensively" lol. Something tells me this guy doesn't know much about hockey.


If you actually look at his possession metrics, they're not close to any one of the 5 C's I have listed. And I can guarantee you I have forgotten more about hockey than you will ever dream of knowing.
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Slavin is better than all of those LD with the exception of Josi


Josi is a defenseman? Who knew?!
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i wont say they are bad, but lets say you cant justify drai not being there while arguing about defense and put Hughes there.


Hughes is not bad defensively lmao. Draisaitl on the other hand is routinely one of the worst defensive players in the league.

And Hughes contributes more offensively.
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JOSH ANDERSON


This is not a list of the bottom 5 players at each position.
11 juill. 2023 à 22 h 56
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If you actually look at his possession metrics, they're not close to any one of the 5 C's I have listed. And I can guarantee you I have forgotten more about hockey than you will ever dream of knowing.

You don't won or lose games on possession. Draisaitl has outperformed possession metrics his whole career.

Three time 50+50 player (best of all current players) and you think he's not good offensively? tears of joy
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Good list.

I love me my Jesper Bratt. He is definitely one of the most exciting to players to watch when he is on. But Mitch Marner is the better player.

Pettersson has probably passed Crosby. His all around game is underrated.

Spurgeon has probably fallen out of the top-10


I cannot disagree more RE: Spurgeon. He's not flashy and that's why he falls under the radar. He's been so criminally overlooked because he doesn't score points or play for a fast-paced skilled team.
 
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