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Defensemen Swap

Créé par: gaz
Équipe: 2023-24 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 10 juill. 2023
Publié: 10 juill. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
It looks like the Canes have gone in on the Karlsson sweepstakes with Deangelo being the plan B option if they lose out to the Pens on getting Karlsson. I think it's safe to say Pesce will get traded (likely to Nashville or Dallas) in a sign-and-trade where the Canes sign him to an 8yr deal then ship him out, as this is likely the hold up in a trade taking place right now, with the acquiring team and his agent negotiating a new deal. If the Canes do get Karlsson, it'll likely be with ~40% retention which is higher than SJS would probably like but this is their best chance to get out from that contract (not that he's a bad player, it's just more of a sell high on the asset). I think the Canes have more flexibility and more to offer than the Pens do as the Pens would need to dump salary in their return package where Carolina wouldn't so if the Canes truly want Karlsson, I'd think they're the clear front runner to land him. Also I don't think Tarasenko will be coming to NC, he's likely gone to OTT or DET.
Transactions
1.
CAR
  1. Fabbro, Dante
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NSH)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (NSH)
NSH
  1. Pesce, Brett
Détails additionnels:
Pesce signs a 6.5 x 8 extension
2.
CAR
  1. Karlsson, Erik (4 200 000 $ retained)
SJS
  1. Fabbro, Dante
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NSH)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (NSH)
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2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $81 954 417 $450 000 $500 000 $1 545 583 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 6
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8 460 250 $8 460 250 $
C
UFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 820 000 $4 820 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
925 000 $925 000 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
762 500 $762 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 280 000 $5 280 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
850 000 $850 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 4

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10 juill. 2023 à 8 h 50
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deal from the sharks end but idk about Nashville
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10 juill. 2023 à 9 h 8
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I think if a 3-way happened here, NSH keeps their 1st (give up a 3rd maybe) but retain 1M on Karlsson or something like that.
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10 juill. 2023 à 9 h 19
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That is a bit high for NSH. I would say NSH either does what @GMBL has mentioned here already or would want the 1st round pick conditional on making playoffs and the 2nd drops to a 3rd.

Personally I'd rather not tie up the last retention spot NSH has on Karlsson for another 4 years, and would rather use it on something like moving Barrie at the deadline for a higher pick, but I wouldn't be opposed to either.
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10 juill. 2023 à 9 h 52
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On the Nashville side, I like the idea of Pesce, but I do not like the idea of giving up the 1st. Maybe conditional on making the playoffs, but yeah... seems a bit steep of price.
Definitely do not like the idea of Nashville using their last retention spot either. My hope is that it gets used on Barrie at the trade deadline.
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10 juill. 2023 à 11 h 38
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Can't see Grier retaining more than 40% for EK65. Even so, there would have to be limited lottery protection (top-5/lottery protection rather than top 10-15).
10 juill. 2023 à 12 h 25
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Can't see Grier retaining more than 40% for EK65. Even so, there would have to be limited lottery protection (top-5/lottery protection rather than top 10-15).


4.2m is 36% of the contract. I think the upper limit would be 40% but likely they would only be retaining in the mid 30s.
10 juill. 2023 à 12 h 37
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4.2m is 36% of the contract. I think the upper limit would be 40% but likely they would only be retaining in the mid 30s.


Gotcha, read the description rather do the math myself.
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11 juill. 2023 à 8 h 17
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Gotcha, read the description rather do the math myself.


All good haha we shall see how it plays out
11 juill. 2023 à 8 h 34
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I don't think DeAngelo is "Plan B" for Karlsson. However, I do agree that a target of around $4M of retention between SJ and a 3rd team is spot on. That would make the money work. Now the exact pieces and parts for all of that can be debated, but EK at about $7.5M is where I think it should land.
11 juill. 2023 à 11 h 4
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I don't think DeAngelo is "Plan B" for Karlsson. However, I do agree that a target of around $4M of retention between SJ and a 3rd team is spot on. That would make the money work. Now the exact pieces and parts for all of that can be debated, but EK at about $7.5M is where I think it should land.


I don't think the Deangelo trade happens unless a Karlsson trade falls through as they both serve the same role on a team and bringing in both makes the defensive core worse defensively cause Chatty's probably pushed down the DC, so that's why I look at it as a Plan B.
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11 juill. 2023 à 11 h 50
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I don't think the Deangelo trade happens unless a Karlsson trade falls through as they both serve the same role on a team and bringing in both makes the defensive core worse defensively cause Chatty's probably pushed down the DC, so that's why I look at it as a Plan B.


Yeah I have to admit I'm really struggling with that one. I will sit patiently while we wait for "The Don" to finally iron all of this out. Waiting truly IS the hardest part.
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