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Willy trade

Créé par: JeffGorton
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 9 juill. 2023
Publié: 9 juill. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
MTL
  1. Murray, Matt
  2. Nylander, William
Détails additionnels:
Nylander is resigned to 8x 9.5m
TOR
  1. Dvorak, Christian (2 225 000 $ retained)
  2. Engström, Adam [Liste de réserve]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (COL)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
2024 1st is top 3 protected
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2183 500 000 $81 109 032 $1 170 000 $4 210 000 $2 390 968 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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812 500 $812 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 925 000 $1 925 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance275 000 $$275K)
DD
RFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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766 667 $766 667 $
DD
UFA - 2
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4 687 500 $4 687 500 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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1 985 000 $1 985 000 $ (Bonis de performance15 000 $$15K)
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
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828 333 $828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1

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9 juill. 2023 à 21 h 20
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Ridiculous, just ridiculous
9 juill. 2023 à 21 h 21
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Not worth it
9 juill. 2023 à 21 h 23
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Ridiculous, just ridiculous


not enough or too much?
9 juill. 2023 à 21 h 24
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I think Toronto would want better win now pieces, and it also doesn’t make sense for Montreal to give up a 1st+ for a pending UFA while rebuilding
9 juill. 2023 à 21 h 28
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not enough or too much?


First, I can’t imagine the leafs trading Willy in division but to the habs - pretty much no chance.
Second, picks or prospects don’t interest leafs - there really is no roster player on habs (that was available) that I would take back for Willy
Third - if that’s the deal, leafs sign him. He has stated he wants to stay in T.O.
9 juill. 2023 à 21 h 30
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not enough or too much?


Value is fine for sure. But I personally would want a better prospect than Engstrom.

I want me Wifi. But that ain't happening haha.

I assume Mitch does not like the trade for the Leafs, which I agree, even though you are giving up a lot. I would miss Nylander and we don't get our D upgrade (here).
gmurrayt a aimé ceci.
9 juill. 2023 à 21 h 34
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Quoting: MitchJr
First, I can’t imagine the leafs trading Willy in division but to the habs - pretty much no chance.
Second, picks or prospects don’t interest leafs - there really is no roster player on habs (that was available) that I would take back for Willy
Third - if that’s the deal, leafs sign him. He has stated he wants to stay in T.O.


1st point is fair but Cat was just traded within the division
2nd point, there is no way a team would give up a player with Nylanders skillset for Nylander, theyd just keep the original player. Or example, Ari wouldntt trade Keller for Nylander, theyd just keep Keller
3rd point, Leafs arent willing to sing him at 10m, they are closer to 8m for him. And to counter the Nylander loves toronto point, Dubois said he wanted to play for montreal until LA gave him for money. Players dont care that much about where they play as long as they get their money
9 juill. 2023 à 21 h 36
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Value is fine for sure. But I personally would want a better prospect than Engstrom.

I want me Wifi. But that ain't happening haha.

I assume Mitch does not like the trade for the Leafs, which I agree, even though you are giving up a lot. I would miss Nylander and we don't get our D upgrade (here).


Id rather give up Xhekaj over Engtrom but we just drafted his brother so that isnt happening. And the leafs need more O depth than they do another d man. And if they need one so bad, using the assets given plus some of your own could easily get Pesce or Hanifin
9 juill. 2023 à 21 h 46
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1st point is fair but Cat was just traded within the division
2nd point, there is no way a team would give up a player with Nylanders skillset for Nylander, theyd just keep the original player. Or example, Ari wouldntt trade Keller for Nylander, theyd just keep Keller
3rd point, Leafs arent willing to sing him at 10m, they are closer to 8m for him. And to counter the Nylander loves toronto point, Dubois said he wanted to play for montreal until LA gave him for money. Players dont care that much about where they play as long as they get their money


Cat is / was a different situation all together. He controlled (to a large extent) where he would be traded - he wanted to sign Extension in Detroit - limited the Sens options. Leafs have 22 teams that could trade Willy; pretty much guarantee it’ll be out of division.
I don’t expect same style of player as Willy back but it has to be a player that can step into top 6 or top 4 (D); Habs can’t offer that.
PLD went to LA because Montreal mgmt got complacent and kings outbid them. Are you telling me habs wouldn’t have signed him to similar deal if they had met jets asking price (like kings eventually did)?
No one knows the truth of what Willy asked for vs what leafs offered; I’m not too worried - lots of time to work out the next contract. Pasta didn’t sign until close to end of season. Aho hasn’t extended yet either; it’s just because it’s the leafs - media driven drama
9 juill. 2023 à 21 h 50
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Leafs are never trading Montreal a player like Nylander even if they provide the best return
9 juill. 2023 à 21 h 53
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Silly trade
 
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