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Willy for Miller and Laf

Créé par: Sadleafsfan7
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 6 juill. 2023
Publié: 6 juill. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Leafs now have jam on every single line. Plus a new shutdown pair of Miller and Brodie.
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TOR
  1. Lafrenière, Alexis [Droits de RFA]
  2. Miller, K'Andre [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Leafs get fair value on nylander.
NYR
  1. Nylander, William
  2. Timmins, Conor
Détails additionnels:
A new star in New York. Rangers going for the cup.
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TOR
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (BOS)
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6 juill. 2023 à 22 h 34
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Leafs fans need to realize that people won’t pay a ton for Nylander, especially teams that can afford him
6 juill. 2023 à 22 h 36
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Some of these Nylander trades are absolutely hilarious
6 juill. 2023 à 22 h 39
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Rangers don't even consider that nonsense offer. Nylander isn't heading to NYC.
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6 juill. 2023 à 22 h 43
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That’s a huge hole on our 2nd pair. If I’m moving Miller I want a similar defenseman coming back not a winger. We don’t have the defensive depth to move him and not get a solid top 4 man back, it’d be disastrous for us.
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6 juill. 2023 à 23 h 18
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Quoting: xercuses
Leafs fans need to realize that people won’t pay a ton for Nylander, especially teams that can afford him


Absolutely nonsense, Nylander will get in the 9's on his next deal and loads of teams would try to make it work. He's scored the 22nd most goals in the past 3 years. 23rd in points league wide. And he has more to give, if he just gets mad more he could be truly great. Lots of people want that to be at a bargain but GM's are going to bet on his best is yet to come.

To argue that is born from a negative bias. 22nd in the league for goals in the past 3 seasons. That's ahead of a lot of very good players who all make between 9 and 10 million.
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6 juill. 2023 à 23 h 26
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Not a chance. K'andre is a keeper and will be paired with Braden Schneider down the road. In the meantime, with Troub's on the roster, the Rangers are solid at RD. That eliminates Connor Timmins. This leaves us with Nylander and Laffy. In a straight up trade, the Leafs would surely be looking for more. That said, when Nylander's has to be renewed at the end of the year, where's the cash? Both Onlyfairtrades1 and HockeyBoy448 have got it right!
6 juill. 2023 à 23 h 26
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Ditto RipNasty!!!
6 juill. 2023 à 23 h 34
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Counterproposal: Nylander for Panarin. If no, then go away and stop bothering us.
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7 juill. 2023 à 0 h 23
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Quoting: gdli
Not a chance. K'andre is a keeper and will be paired with Braden Schneider down the road. In the meantime, with Troub's on the roster, the Rangers are solid at RD. That eliminates Connor Timmins. This leaves us with Nylander and Laffy. In a straight up trade, the Leafs would surely be looking for more. That said, when Nylander's has to be renewed at the end of the year, where's the cash? Both Onlyfairtrades1 and HockeyBoy448 have got it right!


Why did PLD or Debrincat have any value by this logic?
7 juill. 2023 à 0 h 56
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Rangers would have interest in Nylander but Miller and Schneider aren’t going back in the deal. If something can be worked around Lafreniere or Kakko + 1st + a prospect there could be something there.
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7 juill. 2023 à 1 h 33
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Why did PLD or Debrincat have any value by this logic?


I'll make it simple for you, the Rangers have no interest and they can't afford to re-up Nylander at $approx. 9M!
7 juill. 2023 à 2 h 2
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I'll make it simple for you, the Rangers have no interest and they can't afford to re-up Nylander at $approx. 9M!


Great ignore the question.
7 juill. 2023 à 9 h 24
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Leafs fans need to stop trading Nylander to the Rangers, they can't afford his cap and aren't gonna part with Miller and Laf to get him.
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7 juill. 2023 à 12 h 52
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Quoting: RipNasty
Absolutely nonsense, Nylander will get in the 9's on his next deal and loads of teams would try to make it work. He's scored the 22nd most goals in the past 3 years. 23rd in points league wide. And he has more to give, if he just gets mad more he could be truly great. Lots of people want that to be at a bargain but GM's are going to bet on his best is yet to come.

To argue that is born from a negative bias. 22nd in the league for goals in the past 3 seasons. That's ahead of a lot of very good players who all make between 9 and 10 million.


I think you missed the point of my comment lol
I was talking more about leaf’s ACGMs trading him to teams the cap wise literally can’t afford him at all.

Stl and NYR being prime examples, it’s not a dig at Nylander or the leafs but just a joke lmao
7 juill. 2023 à 14 h 14
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I think you missed the point of my comment lol
I was talking more about leaf’s ACGMs trading him to teams the cap wise literally can’t afford him at all.

Stl and NYR being prime examples, it’s not a dig at Nylander or the leafs but just a joke lmao


So those teams wouldn't find a way to make it work? Why on earth wouldn't they? Every team wants to improve but fans would rather not improve it meant their team trades for a leaf player.
7 juill. 2023 à 14 h 21
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So those teams wouldn't find a way to make it work? Why on earth wouldn't they? Every team wants to improve but fans would rather not improve it meant their team trades for a leaf player.


No those teams most likely won’t make it work. Not for Leafs, Flyers, CBJ, SEA, VGK or any of the other 32 teams players. A expensive 6 mil UFA who will cost a lot to trade for is A not something many teams can afford cap or trade wise. And the teams that can probably don’t expect Willy to sign for them

Also why would the Leafs trade him rn, if they are truly trying for a cup it makes no sense to trade him rn.

You agenda to convince people that everyone hates leafs players is wack my guy.
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7 juill. 2023 à 14 h 24
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So those teams wouldn't find a way to make it work? Why on earth wouldn't they? Every team wants to improve but fans would rather not improve it meant their team trades for a leaf player.


the Rangers literally have 6 forwards (Panarin/Mika/Kreider/Trocheck/Chytil/Goodrow), 3 defensemen (Fox/Trouba/Ben Harpur) and Igor under contract for 2024-25, with $21.6M in cap space and with 3 RFAs you'd think they want to keep (Kakko, Braden Schneider, Ryan Lindgren) - and that's even if we assume they trade Laf + Miller in this hypothetical. Getting Nylander at $9M means they have $12.6 M with 8 spots open just to ice a 20-man roster (need 5 forwards, 3 D, and a backup goalie.) Even if they dump Goodrow's contract, that only gives an extra $3.6M to fill 9 spots (and will presumably cost at least a 1st rounder.

So no, some teams just *aren't* going to want to figure out a way to shoehorn a $9M AAV contract onto their roster.
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7 juill. 2023 à 15 h 6
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No those teams most likely won’t make it work. Not for Leafs, Flyers, CBJ, SEA, VGK or any of the other 32 teams players. A expensive 6 mil UFA who will cost a lot to trade for is A not something many teams can afford cap or trade wise. And the teams that can probably don’t expect Willy to sign for them

Also why would the Leafs trade him rn, if they are truly trying for a cup it makes no sense to trade him rn.

You agenda to convince people that everyone hates leafs players is wack my guy.


So if McDavid was available, teams wouldn't find a way to make it work? Sure bud
7 juill. 2023 à 15 h 14
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So if McDavid was available, teams wouldn't find a way to make it work? Sure bud


there's juuuuuuuust a little bit of difference between Connor McDavid and William Nylander, bud
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7 juill. 2023 à 15 h 17
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the Rangers literally have 6 forwards (Panarin/Mika/Kreider/Trocheck/Chytil/Goodrow), 3 defensemen (Fox/Trouba/Ben Harpur) and Igor under contract for 2024-25, with $21.6M in cap space and with 3 RFAs you'd think they want to keep (Kakko, Braden Schneider, Ryan Lindgren) - and that's even if we assume they trade Laf + Miller in this hypothetical. Getting Nylander at $9M means they have $12.6 M with 8 spots open just to ice a 20-man roster (need 5 forwards, 3 D, and a backup goalie.) Even if they dump Goodrow's contract, that only gives an extra $3.6M to fill 9 spots (and will presumably cost at least a 1st rounder.

So no, some teams just *aren't* going to want to figure out a way to shoehorn a $9M AAV contract onto their roster.


So they couldn't move one of their high paid forwards somewhere to create cap space? Of course they could but that blows up everyone's argument so it labeled as impossible. It's this double standard that makes this site unbearable. Leafs have to move Nylander to make the cap work (they don't but this site what everyone is saying) but every other team won't pay a good price because they can't trade anyone off their roster to afford Nylander. I don't know how you can read that and not think, "okay that really doesn't make any sense". Because it absolutely doesn't make any sense.
7 juill. 2023 à 15 h 18
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there's juuuuuuuust a little bit of difference between Connor McDavid and William Nylander, bud


Of course there is, but by the logic of everyone on here, no one can make room for Nylander, how can they make room for McDavid?
7 juill. 2023 à 15 h 25
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So they couldn't move one of their high paid forwards somewhere to create cap space?


no one is saying they *can't*, they're just saying it's stupid to force yourself to have to dump a contract when you don't have to. i even said that the Rangers could do that with Barclay Goodrow's 3x$3.6M, but it would most likely cost them a 1st rounder to do so. Now you've traded away Goodrow, Laf, Miller, and a 1st round pick to add Nylander and Timmins. It really doesn't take more than a couple minutes perusing CF's front page to get acquainted with the other 31 teams and see what their cap situations are looking like.
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7 juill. 2023 à 15 h 26
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Of course there is, but by the logic of everyone on here, no one can make room for Nylander, how can they make room for McDavid?


don't hurt your back moving those goalposts pal
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7 juill. 2023 à 15 h 37
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So if McDavid was available, teams wouldn't find a way to make it work? Sure bud


You said it not me.
Though I would imagine if McDavid was available teams would try to make it work. I can believe you’d think otherwise tbh.

Also not to mention there is a big difference between McDavid and Willy, you’re clearly not reading a single word anyone is saying and trying to convince people there is a vendetta against leafs players is crazy.

Put down the pipe and accept that the rangers won’t do this trade
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7 juill. 2023 à 15 h 44
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So they couldn't move one of their high paid forwards somewhere to create cap space? Of course they could but that blows up everyone's argument so it labeled as impossible. It's this double standard that makes this site unbearable. Leafs have to move Nylander to make the cap work (they don't but this site what everyone is saying) but every other team won't pay a good price because they can't trade anyone off their roster to afford Nylander. I don't know how you can read that and not think, "okay that really doesn't make any sense". Because it absolutely doesn't make any sense.


Literally no one is saying the leafs have to move Nylander, your the only one who’s even mentioned that
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