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Handcuffed us to trash for 3 to 5 yrs

We’re gonna suck and not make the playoffs for at least 3-4 years

To make things worse we have nothing to throw at the trade deadline that will fetch us 1sts and top prospects lmao why give duchene 5 mill when you can give Compher 5 mill x 5

This team is going nowhere
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1 juill. 2023 à 17 h 44
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Big overpay for Compher. I knew someone would.
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Big overpay for Compher. I knew someone would.


Never in my life would I have thought Yzerman would have been that idiot to do so
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Your 3rd and 4th lines have a ton of potential to cause a lot of problems to other teams. Very much in line with what Seattle did to other teams this year.

They REALLY need a top pair LD upgrade though. Maybe Edvinsson could be that guy?

Either way, this is a low end bubble team.

We will see what happens.
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People said I was wrong when I said Yzerman is hella overrated
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Never in my life would I have thought Yzerman would have been that idiot to do so


The Sprong signing is nice at least. You’ll love Kostin too.
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On a side note how do you not take Ryan O’Reilly over Compher at 1 year less term? Much rather have him around the future c kids than Compher and 4 yrs instead of 5

Don’t get this at all
1 juill. 2023 à 17 h 50
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You have no idea what you're talking about.

How do these signings prevent us from making the playoffs?
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Your 3rd and 4th lines have a ton of potential to cause a lot of problems to other teams. Very much in line with what Seattle did to other teams this year.

They REALLY need a top pair LD upgrade though. Maybe Edvinsson could be that guy?

Either way, this is a low end bubble team.

We will see what happens.


This team is going nowhere , can’t score squat those bottom lines won’t do anything. Everyone knows how strong the east conference and he somehow made us worse than we were

Amazing stuff by Yzerman and not in a good way
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You have no idea what you're talking about.

How do these signings prevent us from making the playoffs?


Your deluded if you actually think these signings will better our chances at the playoffs. Have you seen the eastern Conference? Also we just drafted back to back centres why would we sign Compher for 5 long years?

This team is going no where
1 juill. 2023 à 17 h 53
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Your deluded if you actually think these signings will better our chances at the playoffs. Have you seen the eastern Conference? Also we just drafted back to back centres why would we sign Compher for 5 long years?

This team is going no where


Again, you have no idea what you're talking about. You treat this like its a video game.

Our centers aren't NHL ready, neither are our Dmen. They have to hit the floor and the only long term contract he's given out is to Compher, who is a really solid middle 6 right hand shot.

What else do you have to blindly complain about?
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This team is going nowhere , can’t score squat those bottom lines won’t do anything. Everyone knows how strong the east conference and he somehow made us worse than we were

Amazing stuff by Yzerman and not in a good way


Sprong and Kubalik both droped over 20 goals and 40 points last year. Trust, this bottom 6 could be solid.

I actually don't mind any of these signings.

Holl 3 x 3.4m is solid.
Sprong 1 x 2m is very good.
Kostin 2 x 2m is on the steep side, but he is BIG and did well in Edmonton.
Compher 5 x 5.1m isn't crazy. He is a low end top 6 or high end top 9 guy. Considering he is a centre, this is what he would cost. He is a very very good #3C, who can play in the top 6 if needed.
Reimer and Lyon are both on great contracts.

Just be patient to see what he does to finish off. He is building for the super long term. He put in some decent pieces today. But the offseason is not done.
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Again, you have no idea what you're talking about. You treat this like its a video game.

Our centers aren't NHL ready, neither are our Dmen. They have to hit the floor and the only long term contract he's given out is to Compher, who is a really solid middle 6 right hand shot.

What else do you have to blindly complain about?


Treat it like a videogame hahaha .... you don’t think kasper or Danielson will be ready prior to 5 years? Get ****en real your the one living in a fantasy world ... when the time comes you move both copp and Compher as 3rd line overpaid wingers? Wow aren’t we a real threat now

The play was to lock up a guy 1-2 yrs max not ****en 5 . Guy hasn’t cracked 35+ pts once prior to last season on a top nhl club. We’ll be lucky if he hits 40-45 pts

As for the dman we didn’t need to give Justin Holl 3.5 x3 ... with edvinsson coming chiarot will move to the right side we just needed someone good enough to play on the bottom pair shorter and not at 3.5

Only thing I have to complain about are your takes
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Sprong and Kubalik both droped over 20 goals and 40 points last year. Trust, this bottom 6 could be solid.

I actually don't mind any of these signings.

Holl 3 x 3.4m is solid.
Sprong 1 x 2m is very good.
Kostin 2 x 2m is on the steep side, but he is BIG and did well in Edmonton.
Compher 5 x 5.1m isn't crazy. He is a low end top 6 or high end top 9 guy. Considering he is a centre, this is what he would cost. He is a very very good #3C, who can play in the top 6 if needed.
Reimer and Lyon are both on great contracts.

Just be patient to see what he does to finish off. He is building for the super long term. He put in some decent pieces today. But the offseason is not done.


Kubalik will likely be on the 4th or be traded where you gonna fit him in the top 9? I’m not putting in berggren on the 4th line and ruining his progress ... zadina will likely be dealt as well

Compher hit over 35pts once he’s nowhere near 5x5 , holl is a 3rd pairing dman making 3.5 x 3 yrs .both are over paid and too much term

I’m sorry this team will be nowhere close to a playoff spot they haven’t gotten closer to ottawa or buffalo who both missed the playoffs
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Treat it like a videogame hahaha .... you don’t think kasper or Danielson will be ready prior to 5 years? Get ****en real your the one living in a fantasy world ... when the time comes you move both copp and Compher as 3rd line overpaid wingers? Wow aren’t we a real threat now

The play was to lock up a guy 1-2 yrs max not ****en 5 . Guy hasn’t cracked 35+ pts once prior to last season on a top nhl club. We’ll be lucky if he hits 40-45 pts

As for the dman we didn’t need to give Justin Holl 3.5 x3 ... with edvinsson coming chiarot will move to the right side we just needed someone good enough to play on the bottom pair shorter and not at 3.5

Only thing I have to complain about are your takes


What does Compher have to do with Danielson or Kasper? When they are ready they will play.

Compher is a really good RH forward, he scored 50 points last year. What aren't you understanding?

We have 4 NHL-caliber Dmen on the roster right now (unless you count Lindstrom). Who did you want Yzerman to sign? 3 years at 3.5 is next to nothing - not a material issue. Edvinsson isn't ready, despite what you may think.

The cap will go up, these are not large or long deals, you're kind of just an idiot....
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Sprong and Kubalik both droped over 20 goals and 40 points last year. Trust, this bottom 6 could be solid.

I actually don't mind any of these signings.

Holl 3 x 3.4m is solid.
Sprong 1 x 2m is very good.
Kostin 2 x 2m is on the steep side, but he is BIG and did well in Edmonton.
Compher 5 x 5.1m isn't crazy. He is a low end top 6 or high end top 9 guy. Considering he is a centre, this is what he would cost. He is a very very good #3C, who can play in the top 6 if needed.
Reimer and Lyon are both on great contracts.

Just be patient to see what he does to finish off. He is building for the super long term. He put in some decent pieces today. But the offseason is not done.


Wow, a logical, collected take. Good on you.
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
Sprong and Kubalik both droped over 20 goals and 40 points last year. Trust, this bottom 6 could be solid.

I actually don't mind any of these signings.

Holl 3 x 3.4m is solid.
Sprong 1 x 2m is very good.
Kostin 2 x 2m is on the steep side, but he is BIG and did well in Edmonton.
Compher 5 x 5.1m isn't crazy. He is a low end top 6 or high end top 9 guy. Considering he is a centre, this is what he would cost. He is a very very good #3C, who can play in the top 6 if needed.
Reimer and Lyon are both on great contracts.

Just be patient to see what he does to finish off. He is building for the super long term. He put in some decent pieces today. But the offseason is not done.


I originally targeted Mayfield, Killorn, Oreilly, Fischer and Korpisalo/Varlamov. I was even considering Engvall, but look at those deals.

Killorn (34) 6,25Mx4
Oreilly (32) 4,5Mx4
Mayfield (31) 3,5Mx7
Korpisalo (29) 4Mx5
Varlamov (35) 2,75Mx4
Engvall (27) 3Mx7

I would’ve gone Killorn 2y, Oreilly 2y, Mayfield 4y, korpisalo/Varlamov 2y and Engvall 2y.

I think it’s a successful season if they can finish between 13 and 16.
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What does Compher have to do with Danielson or Kasper? When they are ready they will play.

Compher is a really good RH forward, he scored 50 points last year. What aren't you understanding?

We have 4 NHL-caliber Dmen on the roster right now (unless you count Lindstrom). Who did you want Yzerman to sign? 3 years at 3.5 is next to nothing - not a material issue. Edvinsson isn't ready, despite what you may think.

The cap will go up, these are not large or long deals, you're kind of just an idiot....


Quoting: PuzzledActuary
What does Compher have to do with Danielson or Kasper? When they are ready they will play.

Compher is a really good RH forward, he scored 50 points last year. What aren't you understanding?

We have 4 NHL-caliber Dmen on the roster right now (unless you count Lindstrom). Who did you want Yzerman to sign? 3 years at 3.5 is next to nothing - not a material issue. Edvinsson isn't ready, despite what you may think.

The cap will go up, these are not large or long deals, you're kind of just an idiot....


Kasper is ready next season .. that just makes copp move to wing . Danielson will be ready in 2-3 years that’ll just make Compher join copp... Compher scored 50 last year ... for the 1st time in his career as a 28 yr old on one of the top nhl teams . We’re nowhere near as good. What aren’t you understanding?

Walman seider
Edvinssson (yes he’s ready ) chiarot
Maata - all we needed was a shorter dman at 2 mill or less

Your the only idiot here , save your takes for someone who cares
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Kubalik will likely be on the 4th or be traded where you gonna fit him in the top 9? I’m not putting in berggren on the 4th line and ruining his progress ... zadina will likely be dealt as well

Compher hit over 35pts once he’s nowhere near 5x5 , holl is a 3rd pairing dman making 3.5 x 3 yrs .both are over paid and too much term

I’m sorry this team will be nowhere close to a playoff spot they haven’t gotten closer to ottawa or buffalo who both missed the playoffs


I will comment on Holl specificially.

The Leafs were a top 5 defensive team last year. Holl in the regular season played 3rd most minutes on their d core (outside of Brodie and Rielly), In the playoffs he played 4th most minutes on their d core (add McCabe to the first list). In both scenarios he was hovering around 20 minutes a game.

Holl is a solid 4-5 dman. I actually think 3 x 3.4 is a solid deal for him and for Detroit. He will play #1 penalty kill minutes, 2nd pair 5 on 5 minutes, zero powerplay minutes.

Whether he falls on the 2nd pair or 3rd pair for Detroit, this is still a solid contract.
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Kasper is ready next season .. that just makes copp move to wing . Danielson will be ready in 2-3 years that’ll just make Compher join copp... Compher scored 50 last year ... for the 1st time in his career as a 28 yr old on one of the top nhl teams . We’re nowhere near as good. What aren’t you understanding?

Walman seider
Edvinssson (yes he’s ready ) chiarot
Maata - all we needed was a shorter dman at 2 mill or less

Your the only idiot here , save your takes for someone who cares


Edvinsson is ready? lol okay, go watch a different sport little guy. Seems like basketball might be more your speed.

Walman
Seider
Maata
Chiarot
(Lindstrom)

Those are the only NHL dmen on the roster. Guys get hurt constantly. You need bodies, and Holl is a solid body. Get over it.
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Edvinsson is ready? lol okay, go watch a different sport little guy. Seems like basketball might be more your speed.


Enjoy pretending we’re a playoff team and cry when we’re a lottery team again
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My opinion is these signings make the team good... but not great...

when you are full on rebuilding shouldn't you be trying to build up a great team??

Having larkin - copp - compher down the middle puts a baracade for Kasper and Danielson to jump up. Unless someone is moved to the wing...

Holl for three years Matta for two more and Chiarot for 4 more years is a baracade for other d prospects trying to make the jump.

A top six of Berggren - Larkin - Raymond
Copp - Kasper - Compher is good but not a chance that is winning you a stanley cup
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I originally targeted Mayfield, Killorn, Oreilly, Fischer and Korpisalo/Varlamov. I was even considering Engvall, but look at those deals.

Killorn (34) 6,25Mx4
Oreilly (32) 4,5Mx4
Mayfield (31) 3,5Mx7
Korpisalo (29) 4Mx5
Varlamov (35) 2,75Mx4
Engvall (27) 3Mx7

I would’ve gone Killorn 2y, Oreilly 2y, Mayfield 4y, korpisalo/Varlamov 2y and Engvall 2y.

Compfer deal is okay because he is 28 and right handed who can play either W or C.


That Engvall deal is a sad joke. Idk WTF the Islanders are doing.
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I will comment on Holl specificially.

The Leafs were a top 5 defensive team last year. Holl in the regular season played 3rd most minutes on their d core (outside of Brodie and Rielly), In the playoffs he played 4th most minutes on their d core (add McCabe to the first list). In both scenarios he was hovering around 20 minutes a game.

Holl is a solid 4-5 dman. I actually think 3 x 3.4 is a solid deal for him and for Detroit. He will play #1 penalty kill minutes, 2nd pair 5 on 5 minutes, zero powerplay minutes.

Whether he falls on the 2nd pair or 3rd pair for Detroit, this is still a solid contract.


Everywhere I see leafs fans are laughing at the holl signing . He was a punching fan by leafs media and fans for a long time ... and please don’t bring up Larry Murphy guys nowhere close

I’ll respectfully disagree with you and expect wings fans to **** on that signing by the end of the year
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My opinion is these signings make the team good... but not great...

when you are full on rebuilding shouldn't you be trying to build up a great team??

Having larkin - copp - compher down the middle puts a baracade for Kasper and Danielson to jump up. Unless someone is moved to the wing...

Holl for three years Matta for two more and Chiarot for 4 more years is a baracade for other d prospects trying to make the jump.

A top six of Berggren - Larkin - Raymond
Copp - Kasper - Compher is good but not a chance that is winning you a stanley cup


There is no barricade
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Everywhere I see leafs fans are laughing at the holl signing . He was a punching fan by leafs media and fans for a long time ... and please don’t bring up Larry Murphy guys nowhere close

I’ll respectfully disagree with you and expect wings fans to **** on that signing by the end of the year


Ohhhhh the other Leafs fans???? That's where you get your opinions from.

HAHAHAHAAHAHAH
 
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