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Karlsson and Pesce

Créé par: rgwhite17
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 28 juin 2023
Publié: 28 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
13 000 000 $
2900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 000 000 $
43 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Necas, Martin
  2. Pesce, Brett
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
2.
TOR
  1. Karlsson, Erik (4 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Sturm, Nico
SJS
  1. Murray, Matt
  2. Niemelä, Topi
  3. Robertson, Nicholas
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
3.
ARI
  1. Minten, Fraser
Détails additionnels:
28th overall tonight
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2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $81 409 917 $0 $0 $2 090 083 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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4 300 000 $4 300 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
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11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 2
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C
UFA - 2
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
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UFA - 2
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 1
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900 000 $900 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
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4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
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766 667 $766 667 $
G
RFA - 2
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800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
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UFA - 1

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28 juin 2023 à 15 h 30
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Canes pass. Pesce > Brodie

Necas and Nylander are so close in value, and without an extension, I'll straight-up argue Necas has more value. RFA on expiry, 3 years younger, only 20 points less, half the salary this year. Why is Carolina adding? Awful
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28 juin 2023 à 15 h 31
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So SJ get's a cap dump, Robertson who's always hurt. a 1st and Niemela to retain $16 million on EK. I don't see why the sharks would do that
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28 juin 2023 à 15 h 32
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$16,000,000 retained on Erik Karlsson, Gets a far better offer than this.
28 juin 2023 à 15 h 33
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CAR doesn't accept that trade. This is how they will see it, they are giving Necas+a 1st for Nylander which is too much considering the latter's contract situation and Pesce > Brodie and is younger as well.
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28 juin 2023 à 15 h 34
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Canes pass. Pesce > Brodie

Necas and Nylander are so close in value, and without an extension, I'll straight-up argue Necas has more value. RFA on expiry, 3 years younger, only 20 points less, half the salary this year. Why is Carolina adding? Awful


I would assume nylander extension in this deal. Pesce is better than Brodie but I guess assuming they deal him because he can’t be signed then Brodie is a good replacement for the year.
Nylander is older but has a longer track record of producing points, i think his value with an extension is higher than Necas.
28 juin 2023 à 15 h 35
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So SJ get's a cap dump, Robertson who's always hurt. a 1st and Niemela to retain $16 million on EK. I don't see why the sharks would do that


At 7.5m a year, I don't see many teams out bidding this offer.

Karlsson at full cap - No teams would touch him
Karlsson at 9.5m cap - I think 1-3 teams may take him for free
Karlsson at 8.5m cap - A team may pay a 2nd round pick for him
Karlsson at 7.5m cap - this is where I see his value increasing quite a bit. 1st + good prospect is fair. Which they get Niemela + 1st here. Lets say Robertson and Murray cancel each other out.
Karlsson at 50% retention - I think a team would pay ALOT for him here. BUT it sounds like Grier doesn't want to do that. I think that's the wrong move.

I could be wrong and I am open to that possibility. But if you are expecting more than this, I think you will be in for a surprise.
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28 juin 2023 à 15 h 36
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this really isn't good for either team
28 juin 2023 à 15 h 37
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I would assume nylander extension in this deal. Pesce is better than Brodie but I guess assuming they deal him because he can’t be signed then Brodie is a good replacement for the year.
Nylander is older but has a longer track record of producing points, i think his value with an extension is higher than Necas.


Still an easy pass. Would rather just re-sign Pesce and Necas than downgrade and have the misfortune of giving up a 1st to do so. Comical.
28 juin 2023 à 15 h 38
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So SJ get's a cap dump, Robertson who's always hurt. a 1st and Niemela to retain $16 million on EK. I don't see why the sharks would do that


I don’t really understand why Hayes only got a 6th and was half retained but deals are weird right now with cap space tight. Hall dumped for essentially nothing as well.
Now I know karlsson is much bigger asset than these guys but San Jose gets real assets. There’s not many teams that can pull off a karlsson deal that he will approve so the return might be a bit underwhelming.
28 juin 2023 à 15 h 39
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Everybody declines
28 juin 2023 à 15 h 39
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this really isn't good for either team


Lol ya probably not. But gotta try for fun
28 juin 2023 à 15 h 39
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I don’t think the leafs should be the team adding the first round pick in that Carolina trade
28 juin 2023 à 15 h 45
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Canes pass and block the #, then go out and trade for EK and sweep the season series with the Leafs just because this proposal was so bad.
 
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