for half retention + cap dump.... I dont think the sharks would bite

First off Mike Grier isn't eating nearly $23,000,000 And that weak offer sure doesn't get you Karlsson.

Yeah that's a pretty poor offer for EK65 at 50% retained.

Respectfully I disagree. Karlsson is a great player who wants out and has a boat anchor contract. He played great last year and not so great with health issues prior. At full cost it's a huge gamble no one will take. If Murray stays healthy it's a 1 year hit for a good goalie. If he doesn't it's LTIR money. Liljegren has good potential. Niemela and Hirvonen are no cost sweeteners who might work out. This trade gives the Sharks flexibility.

You're not getting 34OA for a right defenseman and a small, often injured wing.

Add the Boston 1st rounder and the 2024 1st rounder and maybe you're onto something. Without any draft picks, this trade is just laughably bad.

Think about how much 1 year of Marleau at ~$6.5M cost Toronto to move 3-4 years ago to Carolina. That was a 1st round pick to move 1 year of that amount of money. Now think about asking a team to eat almost that amount of money plus take a cap dump for basically a 2nd or 3rd pair tweener in Liljegren and some throw in scraps. Doesn't even begin to talk about the value of the actual Norris winner you're acquiring in the process as well. Simply on the principle of money involved this is a terrible trade for SJ.

Do you really think EK is worth $11M? Did you think that last year or the year before, or the year before that? Great player when he shows up.

Bah-dum-tss

on 2.5 mil retention I would agree but at 1/2 the sharks should ask for more

you're way off for that much retention the haul would include what you have here plus your 1sts
Murray is a cap dump costing around a 2nd to dump
The other players you added are good and SJ would be interested but nowhere near the value needed to pay for Karlsson and that amount of retention

Do you really think he's worth just 5.75m?

He's worth $9.5M if he's last years player and $2M if any of the prior 4 years, so yes $5.75M is the price I'd risk.