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Trade Down Trade Away

Créé par: Skytown
Équipe: 2023-24 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 19 juin 2023
Publié: 19 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Sooooo…….. what exactly does Carolina and Calgary wants for Pesce and Hanafin? Lol. I’m sure a dozen teams could beat these offers, but it’s nice seeing that top 4 on paper. I’ll go back to the video games now 😂
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
11 500 000 $
21 200 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
22 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (ANA)
ANA
  1. Myers, Tyler
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
2.
VAN
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TBL)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (TBL)
CHI
  1. Garland, Conor
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
3.
CGY
  1. Klimovich, Danila
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TBL)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (TBL)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
4.
CAR
  1. Rathbone, Jack
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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2024
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Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
2025
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Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $71 855 417 $850 000 $850 000 $11 644 583 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 650 000 $6 650 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
775 000 $775 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
883 750 $883 750 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
825 000 $825 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 237 500 $1 237 500 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
775 000 $775 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
775 000 $775 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2

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19 juin 2023 à 18 h 7
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Not enough actual quality for Pesce.
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19 juin 2023 à 18 h 7
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Bear's QO is 2.2 mil i think
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19 juin 2023 à 18 h 10
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Quoting: BrockChoy
Bear's QO is 2.2 mil i think


I believe you are correct, but with him being out until Dec/Jan I can’t see Vancouver wanting to pay him that. Not sure if they are going to arbitration or not, but I wouldn’t be surprised if a deal like this is done instead of signing a longer/larger deal.
19 juin 2023 à 18 h 11
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Quoting: evelutions2
Not enough actual quality for Pesce.


I’m assuming CAR would want a Hoglander/Lekkerimaki type player in return?
19 juin 2023 à 18 h 13
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That is a significant overpay. Would need to be changed a bit, but yes, trade down, let me get that 11th overall pick! haha
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19 juin 2023 à 18 h 13
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Quoting: Skytown
I’m assuming CAR would want a Hoglander/Lekkerimaki type player in return?


I would assume the ask would be a 23 first and a top prospect as the starting point for negotiations.
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19 juin 2023 à 18 h 14
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Quoting: Garak
That is a significant overpay. Would need to be changed a bit, but yes, trade down, let me get that 11th overall pick! haha


How would you change it?
19 juin 2023 à 18 h 14
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Quoting: Skytown
I believe you are correct, but with him being out until Dec/Jan I can’t see Vancouver wanting to pay him that. Not sure if they are going to arbitration or not, but I wouldn’t be surprised if a deal like this is done instead of signing a longer/larger deal.


Well, if he is on LTIR that whole time, his cap hit would be prorated anyway. So, $2.2M would only end up being like $1.2M or something along those lines.
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19 juin 2023 à 18 h 15
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The trades for Pesce and Hanfin seem fair enough but, that is a lot to give up for 2 defensemen who are more than likely to leave after that 1 season, you must really think you have a chance at winning the cup to give that up.
I don't think you get that favorable of a deal for Garland.
You also don't have a 3rd line center.
I like the creativity though.
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19 juin 2023 à 18 h 19
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Quoting: lowblocksniper
The trades for Pesce and Hanfin seem fair enough but, that is a lot to give up for 2 defensemen who are more than likely to leave after that 1 season, you must really think you have a chance at winning the cup to give that up.
I don't think you get that favorable of a deal for Garland.
You also don't have a 3rd line center.
I like the creativity though.



Trades wouldn’t happen unless extensions were in place. Forgot to put that in there. Oops!! Would be very difficult seeing as Hronek, Hanafin, and Pesce would all be expiring, not to mention EP40s new deal.
But I agree, it’s a very steep price, but if Vancouver is going (once again) into win now mode, those are the types of players/deal needed to improve the team.

Theres $7m+ to get a 3C, I just didn’t sign one.
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19 juin 2023 à 18 h 24
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How would you change it?


Actually. I just added it up using a pick value chart, and it comes out to around a late 2nd early 3rd in value for Garland on top of the pick swap. So, Idk, I guess that depends on what VAN wants for Garland and what CHI is willing to pay for him. Personally, I don't think that is an awful price. I'm just not sure CHI, specifically, would actually be interested in him at that price, or how eager CHI's actual front office is to trade up. I know I would probably do this, or something close to it.
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19 juin 2023 à 18 h 26
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Need 23 first and a top prospect if it’s not for a top 6 winger so they can use those assets to go get one.
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19 juin 2023 à 18 h 58
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Nucks won't trade down. They're selecting a player with that pick now that they have immediate cap relief.
19 juin 2023 à 19 h 2
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How would you change it?


#11 and Garland to Hawks for #19, #44 (Otrawa 2nd) and #93 (Dallas 3rd).
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