Interest in Skjei, with or without retention, with or without an extension?

We do def need a goal scorer, I don't care if the guys in the bottom 6 are fast or not, as long as they produce good results I'll take them. Our number 1 need for d men is a DFD, we already have Petry, Smith, and POJ who are more offensively minded, but can't rly play with each other bc they can't play defense. I couldn't give a f*ck if they're big or not. I also don't think we should go after 1 goalie, just get 2 competent guys who can play in a tandem.

No way we get Toews, he's a top 10 d man in the league, but I would prefer Hanifin, Tanev, Demelo, Murphy, Orlov, (or Pesce) over any of the other d men here

I don't really see toews being moved, he's a top 2 guy and colorado is in win now mode.

I see you have a need for a puck moving d man though and if colorado is looking for changes girard i think would be available and would fill that role for you.

Toews is gonna cost you and I don't think Pittsburgh really have the pieces to interest the Avs. I don't even think they have pieces to interest the Avs when it comes to Girard or at least (in both cases) not ones they'd be willing to part with.

A guy like matthew phillips, Sheary, donato, Graves, Soucy, Bunting in FA
Trade wise, guys like Colton, Duclair, Garland, Foegele, Iafallo, Ardvidson, Anderson-Dolan, Oloffson (a;though eh)
In net, I would go for Vejmelka and then roll him with Desmith or a Anti Raanta if we move on from Desmith
Id also give guys like Nylander and Puustinen a shot in preseason to earn a type 9 role.

I think Girard is going to be picks, Avs need cap space no? They'll move him for picks.

Absolutely target Hanifin and one of the two Kings you posted.

No thanks on Turbo, been there done that.

Avs and Panthers aren't moving those players. Would love Colton and would take Barabanov for bottom six.

They don't NEED to move anyone per se with Landeskog's LTIR money. They may do it to free future space or to acquire a 2C or the pieces to add to a trade for a 2C but that's about the only reason to do so. Picks-wise imo, the Avs should be looking for a value similar to the Hronek trade so it depends if PIT wanted to pay that. Whilst Toews is a UFA next year he's currently a top 10 D in the league so the cost for him would be steep.

I mean there is only 12M in space for the Avs, assuming Byram gets a chunk of that + Newhook and Compher? Kind of assume Compher gets 2C money from Avs. Hence why i think people see Girard as a cap move with Byram taking his spot.

Toews would be a haul hence why I ignored that lol

JTC is almost certainly gone. Byram the thinking from most is a 4-5mil 3 year bridge. Newhook 2-3mil bridge at top end. There's a further 7 mil to play with on top of the 12,575,000 with Landy's LTIR money.

Fail to see any purpose when you don't even list reasonable trade return values. Some of these players like Toews will cost almost everything PIT has.

It's just for fun bro

To be fair - Petry and POJ played fantastic together last season. Petry can play defense. He's more of a two way than straight offensive imo

Honest question - why is this fanbase so obsessed with Vejmelka?

IDK either. He is another mediocre at best player that would likely be no upgrade. Vladar would be a comparable one.

Cause hes on a dirt cheap contract and put up the same numbers as Gibson on a similar team, dude is a good goalie stuck on ARZ. Hes a much better target than Gibson and Helly (Going to cost way to much to get). Only other goalie id consider getting is Ulmark

I don't dislike Vejmelka, but I wouldn't give up a 1st for him. A 2nd sure, but if he's going to cost a 1st would rather get a UFA. I think trade the 1st for fix the D. No matter what goalie is behind our D as constructed currently will fail. I'm all for moving on from Jarry, he's not reliable at all, but I'm sure his numbers were down in part because of how bad our D was. Cannot expect him to make saves when there's guys standing wide open right in front of our net. Get a good puck mover and a good, physical stay at home D that can protect the net. Then get a 1a 1b tandem of two solid goalies in FA and I think that makes us a playoff team.

So are we saying Gibson is good then? There's also UFAs as well don't forget. Vejmelka would be a better target than Gibson due to price/cost to acquire - I'll agree to that. But Hellebuyck is obviously a better target - even accounting for what you'd have to pay. Sometimes you have to pay for great players if you want to win. Desmith is also cheaper and already on the roster.

Vejmelka's decent, I don't really see anything that would show he's good. He'd be a really good backup. Wouldn't consider him a good starter option for a team that is trying to compete for a cup though. I wouldn't even say he's better than Desmith and almost everybody hates him - that's why I was curious why so many people seem to love Vejmelka.

Every fanbase should be obsessed with Vejmelka. I certainly am from Columbus's point of view. Arizona has a proven history of developing good goalies, and Vejmelka is another in that line. Like the other poster said, he had pretty good numbers considering his bad team this past season (he certainly cost them in the ultimate Bedard lottery odds), and he passes the eye test, too. And the acquisition cost wouldn't be nearly that of, say, Hellebuyck or Gibson. A lot of people are going to be shocked when some contending team acquires him and he pops off like Kuemper did.

Where are these good numbers?

Vejmelka numbers the past 2 seasons of the 83 goalies that played 1000+ minutes per Natural Stat Trick.
save %: .899 - 62nd
GSAA: -22.8 - 79th

GSAx per Evolving hockey
2022: 6.98 - 26th
2021: -19.9 - 116th

GSAx per MoneyPuck:
2022: 11.1 - 14th
2021: -23.2 - 117th

Even goalies on his own team have better save % and GSAA. Desmith has better numbers all around. This was a genuine question - because I can't see what you're seeing in these numbers that show this is some great goalie. You can't compare him to Kuemper. Kuemper was top 7 in Vezina votes twice with Arizona before he went to Colorado and had fantastic numbers.

Let's be honest, the only UFA worth while is Adin Hill and hes about to get paid. Freddy is going to re-sign in Carolina if I had to guest and then there is no one left.
Gibson is a good goalie on a god awful defensive team but that contract mixed with the cost to get him is very eh to me and id stay away from him for that reason
Vejmelka is a good goalie that's never got a chance to prove it stats wise because of ARZ. I would be more than willing to take a chance on him if the price is right. Like I said, to me It's Vejmelka or Ulmark who I would target for our next Goaltender with a Anti Ranta to backup if Dubas and co move on from Desmith

I wouldn't even consider Hill top 3 to be honest. Doesn't mean he's not a possibility - but Jarry, Anderson, and Varlamov are all above him. Then you have Hill and Korpisalo on a similar level.

I agree on Gibson. Not worth it at all.

How is Vejmelka a good goalie though? Good is subjective I guess, so I'll try to define it - he'd be a really good backup, fringe starter quality for a team that's trying to compete like the Pens. If they decide as an organization they want take chances on cheap goalies(which is incredibly dangerous btw), why not just play Desmith? He's cheaper, better and already on the roster so he costs no assets. And had terrible defensive play in front of him as well

If MoneyPuck GSAx from last season is all that matters, then we should just sign Korpisalo. That's the best option. Or trade for Samsonov or Wedgewood. I'd take Ullmark for sure by the way if the price is right. And it could be, given BOS cap situation. I just don't see how Vejmelka can be looked at as a starting option for this team next season.