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NO MORE DOBSON

Créé par: Big_Rock_Brock
Équipe: 2023-24 Islanders de New York
Date de création initiale: 14 juin 2023
Publié: 14 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
UFAANSCAP HIT
1775 000 $
11 000 000 $
75 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
NYI
  1. Peeke, Andrew
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CBJ)
2.
NYI
CHI
  1. Bailey, Josh
  2. Salo, Robin
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
3.
NYI
  1. Karlsson, Erik (2 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Sturm, Nico
SJS
  1. Bolduc, Samuel [Droits de RFA]
  2. Dobson, Noah
  3. Dufour, William
  4. Wahlstrom, Oliver [Droits de RFA]
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
Logo de CBJ
Logo de NYI
Logo de NYI
Logo de NYI
Logo de NYI
2024
Logo de NYI
Logo de NYI
Logo de NYI
Logo de NYI
Logo de NYI
2025
Logo de NYI
Logo de NYI
Logo de NYI
Logo de NYI
Logo de NYI
Logo de NYI
Logo de NYI
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2183 500 000 $81 788 333 $0 $0 $1 711 667 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
Logo de Islanders de New York
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 8
Logo de Islanders de New York
9 150 000 $9 150 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 8
Logo de Islanders de New York
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Islanders de New York
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
775 000 $775 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
863 333 $863 333 $
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C
UFA - 4
Logo de Islanders de New York
775 000 $775 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 6
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Islanders de New York
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
6 150 000 $6 150 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 7
Logo de Islanders de New York
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 4
Logo de Islanders de New York
825 000 $825 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Islanders de New York
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1

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14 juin 2023 à 15 h 32
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That’s an awful sharks trade, I don’t trade dobson for much
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14 juin 2023 à 15 h 34
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CHI declines. But also, why trade so much for Karlsson? I think SJS would want 1st's too. But that is just about ALL of the Isles future in one trade for an aging defenseman on a huge contract.
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14 juin 2023 à 15 h 38
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Quoting: Garak
CHI declines. But also, why trade so much for Karlsson? I think SJS would want 1st's too. But that is just about ALL of the Isles future in one trade for an aging defenseman on a huge contract.


its absolutely too much I just didnt feel like having people whine about fleecing SJS in the replies lmao
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14 juin 2023 à 15 h 39
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Sharks do this, but why does NYI?
14 juin 2023 à 15 h 39
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Hawks pass....LHD aged prospect is of no interest with the Hawks having no less than 5 LHD prospects that should be getting NHL icetime this year and Korchinski coming soon. Bailey and a 2nd and 2nd is the deal to move him to the Hawks.
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14 juin 2023 à 15 h 54
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Sharks clearly accept but Dobson and some picks gets it done.
14 juin 2023 à 15 h 55
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Isles wouldnt trade Dobson for karlsson straight up
14 juin 2023 à 15 h 57
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Quoting: Blacktown
Sharks clearly accept but Dobson and some picks gets it done.


Karlsson+ wouldn’t even get isles to entertain trading Dobson
14 juin 2023 à 16 h 15
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Karlsson+ wouldn’t even get isles to entertain trading Dobson


I get that. Karlsson is clearly the better player but Dobson still has upside and is vastly cheaper.
14 juin 2023 à 16 h 31
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I get that. Karlsson is clearly the better player but Dobson still has upside and is vastly cheaper.


Also Because of karlsson age, dobson likely provides more on ice value over the next 2-3 seasons. If the isles sign Dobson long term, it eats up his age 25-32 seasons and if they decide to trade him , prime age top pair RHD are one of the most sought after positions and teams overpay for it.
14 juin 2023 à 16 h 33
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Also Because of karlsson age, dobson likely provides more on ice value over the next 2-3 seasons. If the isles sign Dobson long term, it eats up his age 25-32 seasons and if they decide to trade him , prime age top pair RHD are one of the most sought after positions and teams overpay for it.


Over the next 2-3 years its very obvious that Karlsson will be the better player. To say otherwise is a bit of a hilarious joke. After 2-3 years Dobson is definitely better. Karlsson is one of the best offensive dmen of all time just coming off the fifth best season by a defensemen in NHL history and doing it on a terrible team. Dobson cant even touch Karlssons elite level right now and hes not even remotely close.
14 juin 2023 à 16 h 45
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Over the next 2-3 years its very obvious that Karlsson will be the better player. To say otherwise is a bit of a hilarious joke. After 2-3 years Dobson is definitely better. Karlsson is one of the best offensive dmen of all time just coming off the fifth best season by a defensemen in NHL history and doing it on a terrible team. Dobson cant even touch Karlssons elite level right now and hes not even remotely close.


Karlsson had an incredible season offensively , coming off of 2 underwhelming seasons. At 33 YO, given his injury history style of play , it’s very likely he doesn’t come close to this years impact next season.

Dobson was miles better than karlsson in 21-22 season, so acting like it’s a given that Karlsson will be better next season is just wishful thinking.



14 juin 2023 à 16 h 49
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Karlsson had an incredible season offensively , coming off of 2 underwhelming seasons. At 33 YO, given his injury history style of play , it’s very likely he doesn’t come close to this years impact next season.

Dobson was miles better than karlsson in 21-22 season, so acting like it’s a given that Karlsson will be better next season is just wishful thinking.




Yourself included everyone discounts the last two years for Karlsson as down seasons when he never actually played healthy which essentially saying an injured player sucks whch is really silly.

The fancy stats do not sway me. Anyone saying that Dobson is better than Karlsson needs to legit get their heads checked. Sorry boss but youve struck out.

3x Norris. I seriously doubt Dobson will even sniff one Norris. Lets be mature about this and admit when youre wrong. Its hard to do but you should try it.
14 juin 2023 à 16 h 51
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Yourself included everyone discounts the last two years for Karlsson as down seasons when he never actually played healthy which essentially saying an injured player sucks whch is really silly.

The fancy stats do not sway me. Anyone saying that Dobson is better than Karlsson needs to legit get their heads checked. Sorry boss but youve struck out.


Injuries have to be factored in. It’s a part of the game. This isn’t a fancy stat lol , this is exactly what happened on the ice.

I never argued Dobson was better than Karlsson this past season, there’s just a strong chance Dobson is better than Karlsson over the next 2-3 years when factoring in age, injuries, and regression.
15 juin 2023 à 12 h 50
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that sharks trade makes me physically ill
15 juin 2023 à 12 h 51
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Quoting: Blacktown
Yourself included everyone discounts the last two years for Karlsson as down seasons when he never actually played healthy which essentially saying an injured player sucks whch is really silly.

The fancy stats do not sway me. Anyone saying that Dobson is better than Karlsson needs to legit get their heads checked. Sorry boss but youve struck out.

3x Norris. I seriously doubt Dobson will even sniff one Norris. Lets be mature about this and admit when youre wrong. Its hard to do but you should try it.


I’d rather have Dobson at $4mil and likely around $6.5-$7mil once his contract is up than Karlsson at $9.5mil for the next 4 years
 
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