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Solving depth defense and goaltending by trading Guentzel

Créé par: fixitf11
Équipe: 2023-24 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 12 juin 2023
Publié: 13 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
2900 000 $
2900 000 $
2900 000 $
2900 000 $
54 200 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
45 000 000 $
31 875 000 $
32 875 000 $
21 500 000 $
11 500 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Lafrenière, Alexis4 200 000 $
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024
Transactions
1.
PIT
  1. Stankoven, Logan
  2. Stranges, Antonio
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
2.
ANA
  1. Lindberg, Filip [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
3.
4.
NYR
  1. Foegele, Warren
Détails additionnels:
NYR then flips Foegele at 50% retention, clearing 2.26M this year, and 3.6M years 2-4 of Goodrow’s contract
5.
PIT
  1. Fleury, Haydn
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (ANA)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $76 060 592 $0 $0 $7 439 408 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
4 200 000 $4 200 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
2 875 000 $2 875 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
3 641 667 $3 641 667 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
775 000 $775 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
900 000 $900 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 025 175 $4 025 175 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
6 400 000 $6 400 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
825 000 $825 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
1 875 000 $1 875 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
900 000 $900 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
900 000 $900 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
762 500 $762 500 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
863 333 $863 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
C, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
900 000 $900 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Stars de Dallas
846 667 $846 667 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
C, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Stars de Dallas
814 167 $814 167 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
C, AD
RFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
918 333 $918 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG
RFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
886 667 $886 667 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
G
RFA - 3

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13 juin 2023 à 16 h 33
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Carter says no. That Gibson trade is terrible for PIT if he isn't great.
13 juin 2023 à 16 h 33
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I like Stankoven, but I think you could maybe get a bit more for Guentzel.
Hate moving a first for Gibson. Man has not performed since 2019. I know a better team may help, but still very worrisome to move a 1st for a non-guarantee.
Carter will not waive.
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13 juin 2023 à 16 h 49
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Quoting: Marcsnack

Hate moving a first for Gibson. Man has not performed since 2019. I know a better team may help, but still very worrisome to move a 1st for a non-guarantee.


It's a pick a year from now that will be in the 25 range of the round given how good Dallas is. The realistic expectation of that pick is a middle of the lineup player that sees NHL ice in 2026 or 2027.

I don't see how that is unreasonable for a starting goal tender playing 60+ games for the next four seasons. It boils down to you either like Gibson or you don't.

FWIW, that trade sucks for Anaheim. The Pens would need to replace that meh AHL backup goal tender with an actual asset of value at a minimum.
13 juin 2023 à 16 h 49
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Last thing TB needs is a 3rd pair/#4 RD and they kept Fluery over Friedman
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13 juin 2023 à 16 h 56
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It's a pick a year from now that will be in the 25 range of the round given how good Dallas is. The realistic expectation of that pick is a middle of the lineup player that sees NHL ice in 2026 or 2027.

I don't see how that is unreasonable for a starting goal tender playing 60+ games for the next four seasons. It boils down to you either like Gibson or you don't.

FWIW, that trade sucks for Anaheim. The Pens would need to replace that meh AHL backup goal tender with an actual asset of value at a minimum.


No matter how you say it, it is still a first round pick. If we are going to give up a 1st for a goalie, I would much rather add a bit and get Hellebuyck, Saros, Ullmark, who have cheaper deals and are not signed as long.
I like Gibson, and him playing for his hometown team would be fun, but 4 years at $6.4M is a giant risk in my opinion.
13 juin 2023 à 16 h 57
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Oilers would never. This is borderline trolling
13 juin 2023 à 17 h 0
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Lol, you offer sheet a player from NYR and then think they’ll be open to a trade with you? 🤣🤣🤣 You’d be fired after dropping a first for Gibson, he’s washed and then someone, playing for that trash franchise ruined him.
13 juin 2023 à 17 h 1
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Quoting: Marcsnack
No matter how you say it, it is still a first round pick. If we are going to give up a 1st for a goalie


That's all fair, like I said you either like Gibson enough or you don't. Anaheim has zero pressure to trade the guy so if he stays a Duck probably the only one unhappy about it is Gibson himself. Myself, I'm perfectly happy to see him in the crease in Anaheim. He can eat a billion pucks again like last season.
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13 juin 2023 à 17 h 13
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I respect the creativeness, but big pass on Gibson.

Would rather take the 1st you're getting and trade for Saros/Ullmark
13 juin 2023 à 17 h 16
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The timeline doesn’t work for Dallas from a cap perspective. Adding $6M this offseason is tough enough as it is, but Dallas isn’t really going to have the necessary cap space next offseason to give Guentzel the extension he’s going to be looking for.

Dallas is going to be pretty reliant on guys like Johnston, Stankoven, and even Bourque to provide reliable, cheap, scoring options for the team while they’re on their ELCs. Until Benn’s contract is up, I’m not sure Dallas is the best fit for any player that’s going to want big-money in the near future.
13 juin 2023 à 17 h 37
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Rangers match that pathetic offer sheet lol

I guess a lot of teams are interested in “bust” Laffy
13 juin 2023 à 17 h 52
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Rangers match that pathetic offer sheet lol

I guess a lot of teams are interested in “bust” Laffy


Oh I totally love Lafreniere, but I do think he needs a change of scenery. I’ve followed him since juniors (mostly cause I love the Oceanic cause of Sid) and I feel like NY never put him in the proper position to succeed in their system.
13 juin 2023 à 18 h 15
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Oh I totally love Lafreniere, but I do think he needs a change of scenery. I’ve followed him since juniors (mostly cause I love the Oceanic cause of Sid) and I feel like NY never put him in the proper position to succeed in their system.


Fair enough haha. All I ever hear is he’s a bust or he’s the French yakupov. I really hope Laviolette gives him a chance to succeed
13 juin 2023 à 18 h 47
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oilers pass.

they would have 0 interest in either of those players and would be better off with foegele and yamo.
 
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