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Créé par: seanrushton
Équipe: 2023-24 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 12 juin 2023
Publié: 12 juin 2023
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    12 juin 2023 à 18 h 23
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    Bouchard AND a first, for a one year rental player. Oilers pass. I like Pesce for the oilers but not at that cost.
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    12 juin 2023 à 18 h 24
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    Quoting: nikynik
    Bouchard AND a first, for a one year rental player. Oilers pass. I like Pesce for the oilers but not at that cost.


    I forgot to put that Pesce comes with an extension
    12 juin 2023 à 18 h 24
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    Pesce is great, but Bouchard + a 1st seems like too much
    12 juin 2023 à 18 h 25
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    Quoting: mv21227
    Pesce is great, but Bouchard + a 1st seems like too much


    Not really... it helps your defense significantly and Bouchard only has one year of being a pretty good player. What's your idea of a Pesce-Oilers trade?
    12 juin 2023 à 18 h 28
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    Bouchard is worth more than Pesce alone.... even with an extension. And I love Pesce as a player.
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    12 juin 2023 à 18 h 30
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    yeah... just for the age difference alone i think it make no sense.

    and pesce is overated on this site. here i said it. throw the stones at me i'm ready.
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    12 juin 2023 à 18 h 31
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    Quoting: drambui
    yeah... just for the age difference alone i think it make no sense.

    and pesce is overated on this site. here i said it. throw the stones at me i'm ready.


    I'd disagree... Pesce is a shutdown defenseman who can contribute a little to the offense... he'd be a perfect fit in Edmonton
    12 juin 2023 à 18 h 33
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    Quoting: CJ1909
    Bouchard is worth more than Pesce alone.... even with an extension. And I love Pesce as a player.


    I mean I get that sentiment but I'd also counter with...
    Drasitl and McDavid aren't getting any younger and Pesce is a better player now and helps fixes a massive hole on your team
    I'd agree dropping the first is a reasonable compromise
    12 juin 2023 à 18 h 33
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    I hope you are not holding your breath on that leafs proposal; ain’t going to happen but nice try 😅
    12 juin 2023 à 18 h 35
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    Quoting: MitchMafia
    I hope you are not holding your breath on that leafs proposal; ain’t going to happen but nice try 😅


    I mean you guys get to solve your Murray cap problems and a first is a reasonable price
    12 juin 2023 à 18 h 36
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    Quoting: seanrushton
    I'd disagree... Pesce is a shutdown defenseman who can contribute a little to the offense... he'd be a perfect fit in Edmonton


    he would be a wonderfull fit that i will agree. just so we are clear, i think he is good,
    12 juin 2023 à 18 h 36
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    Quoting: drambui
    yeah... just for the age difference alone i think it make no sense.

    and pesce is overated on this site. here i said it. throw the stones at me i'm ready.


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    12 juin 2023 à 18 h 38
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    Quoting: seanrushton
    I mean you guys get to solve your Murray cap problems and a first is a reasonable price


    Very generous😅. It’s not that big of a problem ($600 K this, $2M next); not worth near a 1st never mind a 1st + 😂
    12 juin 2023 à 18 h 39
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    C’mon man, Pesce is a solid top 4 defenseman. But this valuation is out of whack.
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    12 juin 2023 à 18 h 43
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    Quoting: MitchMafia
    Very generous😅. It’s not that big of a problem ($600 K this, $2M next); not worth near a 1st never mind a 1st + 😂


    Did i forget the part where he's a $4+m cap hit for being a third stringer
    12 juin 2023 à 18 h 43
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    Quoting: Caniac555
    C’mon man, Pesce is a solid top 4 defenseman. But this valuation is out of whack.


    I know... the first is a little too much
    12 juin 2023 à 18 h 44
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    Quoting: drambui
    he would be a wonderfull fit that i will agree. just so we are clear, i think he is good,


    I do too and I think the Hurricanes could stand to get a little younger on the defensive side and Bouchard I think is a perfect candidate given his age and where the Oilers are as a team
    12 juin 2023 à 18 h 47
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
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    knew you would deliver.
    12 juin 2023 à 18 h 50
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    Quoting: seanrushton
    I do too and I think the Hurricanes could stand to get a little younger on the defensive side and Bouchard I think is a perfect candidate given his age and where the Oilers are as a team


    I think from an Oilers perspective, one would more sooner trade Broberg, 1st round pick and another higher level prospect in hopes he would sign a 4 or 5 year deal at a "reasonable' cap hit. I am a big fan of Pesce and would love to see him in orange and blue... Also to note, he is a tree, exactly what Kenny likes.
    12 juin 2023 à 18 h 53
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    Quoting: JBrger18
    I think from an Oilers perspective, one would more sooner trade Broberg, 1st round pick and another higher level prospect in hopes he would sign a 4 or 5 year deal at a "reasonable' cap hit. I am a big fan of Pesce and would love to see him in orange and blue... Also to note, he is a tree, exactly what Kenny likes.


    I can see why you'd rather trade Broberg but he's much more of a gamble considering his lack of NHL experience... I think he plays up until the trade deadline on the Oilers then I think it be a much more palatable trade to Hurricanes brass
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    12 juin 2023 à 18 h 57
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    Quoting: seanrushton
    I can see why you'd rather trade Broberg but he's much more of a gamble considering his lack of NHL experience... I think he plays up until the trade deadline on the Oilers then I think it be a much more palatable trade to Hurricanes brass


    Completely fair! You seem like a reasonable thinker. I think best course of action is to play Broberg in the minors for 20-30 games and play 20-25 minutes a night in all situations. I think that would definitely help his progression and value, especially if he can stay healthy
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    12 juin 2023 à 18 h 58
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    Quoting: seanrushton
    I mean you guys get to solve your Murray cap problems and a first is a reasonable price


    A first might be a reasonable price for Carolina to ask
    for from Toronto but it is a hefty price that the Leafs shouldn't pay. You have them paying a 1st and a 3rd. The Leafs are better off carrying 3 goalies and playing Murray until he regains some value and can be moved or the more likely scenario, until he gets hurt.
    12 juin 2023 à 19 h 0
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    Quoting: JBrger18
    Completely fair! You seem like a reasonable thinker. I think best course of action is to play Broberg in the minors for 20-30 games and play 20-25 minutes a night in all situations. I think that would definitely help his progression and value, especially if he can stay healthy


    For sure... He seems like he needs just a little bit more time down in the minors before he's ready to take a NHL role and if he's doing all right at the NHL level by the time the trade deadline then I think the Hurricanes might be willing to deal for him considering if he doesn't work out we still have a couple of elite prospects waiting in the wings
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    12 juin 2023 à 19 h 2
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    Bouchard doesn’t do anything for us. Are we trading Chatfield then to get another big bodied RHD? Who is going to cover Skjei?
    12 juin 2023 à 19 h 2
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    Quoting: GMBL
    A first might be a reasonable price for Carolina to ask
    for from Toronto but it is a hefty price that the Leafs shouldn't pay. You have them paying a 1st and a 3rd. The Leafs are better off carrying 3 goalies and playing Murray until he regains some value and can be moved or the more likely scenario, until he gets hurt.


    I mean it allows your team almost $5m in extra cap space for a team that only has $10m to sign 6 contracts
     
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