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Recovery from Fletcher Era

Créé par: SpankyGeezus
Équipe: 2023-24 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 12 juin 2023
Publié: 12 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
11 000 000 $
32 650 000 $
21 850 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
22 900 000 $
1950 000 $
Transactions
1.
PHI
  1. Foudy, Liam
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CBJ)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (LAK)
CBJ
  1. Hayes, Kevin (2 000 000 $ retained)
2.
PHI
  1. Drury, Jack
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (PHI)
CAR
  1. Deangelo, Anthony (2 500 000 $ retained)
3.
PHI
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
  2. Robertson, Nicholas
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
Philly gets two firsts (reported ask for Hart) along with a project prospect in Robertson and a young RHD with team control.
TOR
  1. Hart, Carter
  2. Laughton, Scott
  3. Seeler, Nick
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
Toronto gets a young start in Hart who is a bit of an unknown when it comes to his real ability in this league. Laughton is a great two-way top 9 players who adds grit and many intangibles. Seeler is a good veteran depth D-man who can kill penalties and anchor a bottom 6 pairing
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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12 juin 2023 à 14 h 1
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Not really interested in replacing Liljegren with a 30 year old Nick Seeler from the Leafs perspective.
12 juin 2023 à 14 h 1
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That’s not enough for Hart Laughton Seeler lol.

Trade would break up like this:
Laughton for a 1st and Robertson (probably enough)
Hart for 1st and Liljegren (not even close to flyers asking price)
Seeler and a 4th for ….. nothing?
12 juin 2023 à 14 h 2
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Leafs say no.

Two 1sts for Carter Hart (you won't get that return, but for arguments sake sure)
Liljegren + Robertson for Laughton, Seeler and a 4th (massive L for the Leafs. Liljegren himself outvalues that package).
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12 juin 2023 à 14 h 2
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Quoting: jsteed02
Not really interested in replacing Liljegren with a 30 year old Nick Seeler from the Leafs perspective.


You get Hart and Laughton in a massive underpay by the Leafs and ur hung up on Seeler ? Good lord 😂😂😂😂
12 juin 2023 à 14 h 3
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Quoting: Cor
Leafs say no.


It doesn’t matter Flyers wouldn’t offer it without taking back double the return currently offered lol
12 juin 2023 à 14 h 4
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Come on, man.
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12 juin 2023 à 14 h 7
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Quoting: TheBigFlyera
That’s not enough for Hart Laughton Seeler lol.

Trade would break up like this:
Laughton for a 1st and Robertson (probably enough)
Hart for 1st and Liljegren (not even close to flyers asking price)
Seeler and a 4th for ….. nothing?


Just because Carter Hart plays behind the worst defence in NHL history does not make him a good goalie. He has a career .906 sv. They would be lucky to get Casey Desmith in a deal for him
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12 juin 2023 à 14 h 8
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Quoting: TheBigFlyera
It doesn’t matter Flyers wouldn’t offer it without taking back double the return currently offered lol


Ok Daniel Briere
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12 juin 2023 à 14 h 10
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Nah.
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12 juin 2023 à 14 h 10
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Quoting: TheBigFlyera
It doesn’t matter Flyers wouldn’t offer it without taking back double the return currently offered lol


In your dreams maybe.

Ilya Samsonov is objectively a better goalie than Carter Hart. The Leafs have 0 need to trade two first rounds picks for him.

They also have zero need to trade a young player who started playing top 4 minutes for us, for a depth d-man and a 4th round pick lmao

Robertson for Laughton about the only thing that makes sense. A prospect that can use a change, for a third line forward.
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12 juin 2023 à 14 h 12
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Quoting: bfloyd92
Just because Carter Hart plays behind the worst defence in NHL history does not make him a good goalie. He has a career .906 sv. They would be lucky to get Casey Desmith in a deal for him


Carter Hart had a goals saved above expected of 12.93
Ilya Samsonov had 21.24

Carter Hart can be a good goalie behind a good team, issue is, Toronto already has that.

Toronto realistically isn't a suitor for Carter Hart, unless it's a swap of the two goalies
12 juin 2023 à 14 h 18
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Quoting: TheBigFlyera
You get Hart and Laughton in a massive underpay by the Leafs and ur hung up on Seeler ? Good lord 😂😂😂😂


The Leafs aren’t desperate for Carter Hart, we have Samsonov and Woll. Liljegren is worth way more than what he’s being valued at in this trade.
12 juin 2023 à 14 h 19
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Quoting: Cor
In your dreams maybe.

Ilya Samsonov is objectively a better goalie than Carter Hart. The Leafs have 0 need to trade two first rounds picks for him.

They also have zero need to trade a young player who started playing top 4 minutes for us, for a depth d-man and a 4th round pick lmao

Robertson for Laughton about the only thing that makes sense. A prospect that can use a change, for a third line forward.


Just because u do no research and comment whatever you want doesn’t mean ur right lol. I advise u to do osmosis research. It would help all of us on here. Flyers have already turned down multiple deals for Laughton in which a late 1st was offered per Flyers insider Di Marco. Per San Filippo, the Flyers already have offers from multiple teams for Hart including Toronto and Edmonton and more are expected. Haven’t seen any news on teams wanting Samsonov so clearly GMs think 1 is the better goalie. Just do like any research at all and u would be actually informed on the topic lol
12 juin 2023 à 14 h 20
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Quoting: bfloyd92
Just because Carter Hart plays behind the worst defence in NHL history does not make him a good goalie. He has a career .906 sv. They would be lucky to get Casey Desmith in a deal for him


Just do some research instead of being uninformed you can go look at my sources above^ it will help u actually learn
12 juin 2023 à 14 h 25
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Quoting: TheBigFlyera
Just do some research instead of being uninformed you can go look at my sources above^ it will help u actually learn


Have you considered that Hart will be in a federal prison serving 25 years by American Thanksgiving?
12 juin 2023 à 14 h 25
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Quoting: TheBigFlyera
Just because u do no research and comment whatever you want doesn’t mean ur right lol. I advise u to do osmosis research. It would help all of us on here. Flyers have already turned down multiple deals for Laughton in which a late 1st was offered per Flyers insider Di Marco. Per San Filippo, the Flyers already have offers from multiple teams for Hart including Toronto and Edmonton and more are expected. Haven’t seen any news on teams wanting Samsonov so clearly GMs think 1 is the better goalie. Just do like any research at all and u would be actually informed on the topic lol


Flyers insiders 😂 - that’s definitive
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12 juin 2023 à 14 h 26
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Quoting: bfloyd92
Have you considered that Hart will be in a federal prison serving 25 years by American Thanksgiving?


Ah ok ur one of these lol, noted. Good luck to you 👍🏼
12 juin 2023 à 14 h 26
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Hart & Laughton’s agent deserves a lot of credit - talk about being over hyped
12 juin 2023 à 14 h 26
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Quoting: MitchMafia
Flyers insiders 😂 - that’s definitive


That was then quoted by Pagnotta and talked about by Friedman on one of his podcasts I’m literally just do research and Leaf’s fans wouldn’t look so uninformed on this website in everything they say and do
12 juin 2023 à 14 h 27
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Quoting: MitchMafia
Hart & Laughton’s agent deserves a lot of credit - talk about being over hyped


Overhyped is the Leafs have the same amount of playoffs series won as the Flyers in the last decade despite the Flyers only being in the playoffs like 3 of the 10 years 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
12 juin 2023 à 14 h 33
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So now Hart and Laughton worth the equivalent of 3 1st +

Let's be honest, Seeler and the 4rth and Roberston counter each other.

Here's how the value is assed (also note that the Leafs would be paying this much for a 3/4C and backup on their roster):

2024 1st>Laughton
Lilly and the 2023 1st>Hart

Why would the Leafs do this?
12 juin 2023 à 14 h 36
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Quoting: TheBigFlyera
Just because u do no research and comment whatever you want doesn’t mean ur right lol. I advise u to do osmosis research. It would help all of us on here. Flyers have already turned down multiple deals for Laughton in which a late 1st was offered per Flyers insider Di Marco. Per San Filippo, the Flyers already have offers from multiple teams for Hart including Toronto and Edmonton and more are expected. Haven’t seen any news on teams wanting Samsonov so clearly GMs think 1 is the better goalie. Just do like any research at all and u would be actually informed on the topic lol


Is that before Fletcher was fired or after?
12 juin 2023 à 14 h 36
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Quoting: TheBigFlyera
Just because u do no research and comment whatever you want doesn’t mean ur right lol. I advise u to do osmosis research. It would help all of us on here. Flyers have already turned down multiple deals for Laughton in which a late 1st was offered per Flyers insider Di Marco. Per San Filippo , the Flyers already have offers from multiple teams for Hart including Toronto and Edmonton and more are expected. Haven’t seen any news on teams wanting Samsonov so clearly GMs think 1 is the better goalie. Just do like any research at all and u would be actually informed on the topic lol


Key words: Flyers insiders... Not neutral insiders like Friedman and Marek or opposing team insiders like Luke Fox, Flyers insiders, whom have the same credibility as Habs insiders saying that Josh Anderson has been offered a 1+ and Hughes turned it down.
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12 juin 2023 à 14 h 37
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Quoting: TheBigFlyera
Just because u do no research and comment whatever you want doesn’t mean ur right lol. I advise u to do osmosis research. It would help all of us on here. Flyers have already turned down multiple deals for Laughton in which a late 1st was offered per Flyers insider Di Marco. Per San Filippo, the Flyers already have offers from multiple teams for Hart including Toronto and Edmonton and more are expected. Haven’t seen any news on teams wanting Samsonov so clearly GMs think 1 is the better goalie. Just do like any research at all and u would be actually informed on the topic lol


I guarantee people want Sammy, difference is one actually is open to resigning where he plays
12 juin 2023 à 14 h 45
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Quoting: TheBigFlyera
Overhyped is the Leafs have the same amount of playoffs series won as the Flyers in the last decade despite the Flyers only being in the playoffs like 3 of the 10 years 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂


Bit of a reach comparing top 5 team to tire fire that is the flyers but 🤷🏻. And I forgot - Laughton has heart and Hart has potential so they are totally worth that 😅. Or they could just be ok players on a terrible team. Good luck with the rebuild
 
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