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Forum: Armchair-GM6 juill. 2023 à 15 h 34
Sujet: EK to PIT Route
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CheechYou</b></div><div>This return, while I personally wouldn't do it as Sharks GM, is realistic for what to expect from Grier. However, that's too much retention. I see 33% retention max out of Grier.

Sharks accept if it's about 3.5mil retained instead of 4.6mil. Or send a 2nd rounder to a 3rd party team for them to retain 1-1.5mil or so.</div></div>

If a third team is involved to retain 1-1.5m and the Sharks are only retaining 3.5, the return from PIT will be less. Same deal as above, remove the third going to SJ and send it to the third party team and there you go. I agree that Grier is strapped and only can do so much given the situation. I think it's more likely we see Karlsson in a Sharks jersey next season than traded for a massive return. It'll be a decent package but not a runaway for SJS.
Forum: Armchair-GM6 juill. 2023 à 15 h 19
Sujet: EK to PIT Route
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pens1991</b></div><div>Regardless of what team Karlsson ends up on I don't think the sharks can move him unless they retain at least $4M. He'd obviously only waive to go to a team that's going to compete for a playoff spot and I don't think any of those options could take on a cap hit over $8M (or would want to). Also, regardless of the team that trades for him, they're most likely going to be sending another defenseman back. Whether SJS plays that person or in turn flips them is obviously up in the air.

Idk who the metro teams could be besides the penguins/canes

Isles have Pulock/Dobson/Mayfield on right side, Dobson is young and no one would want that mayfield contract (mayfield and Pulock have NTCs).
Jersey is possible.. i think they're still focused on getting a goalie, but adding Karlsson doesn't make a ton of sense there because Marion would likely go to SJS and he's one of their better defensive defenseman.
Rangers are definitely out, Fox and Trouba on the right.
He wouldn't waive for the flyers.
CJB could maybe be it.. but they would need to move cap, and I could see Karlsson saying no because who wants to play for Babcock.
Maybe caps, but they'd have to also offload a lot of cap and Jensen would be coming back to make space for Karlsson.

I'd be the surprise team is still seattle, specially if they're worried about Dunn.

Regardless, if it's a metro team you're most likely getting a defenseman back.

I honestly don't really care to have him for the pens unless everything falls just right, I would want 50% retained between SJS and a third team and the penguins need to move cap themselves.</div></div>

Agreed. I'm also not necessarily fond of acquiring Karlsson but if we did this is how I'd want it to look. I don't see the Sharks retaining 50% and I'm not sure we have the assets in the organization to entice them to do so. Nonetheless, he technically fits our window and as long as we don't move Yager or Pickering to make it happen I can live with that.
Forum: Armchair-GM6 juill. 2023 à 15 h 14
Sujet: EK to PIT Route
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hawksguy81</b></div><div>Hawks decline. Petry isn't a need for the Hawks, and GM Kyle from Chicago essentially said yesterday they aren't taking on more contracts. And this package doesn't get the deal done anyway. Neither POJ or Smith would be targets for the Hawks. They'd ask for the '26 2nd in place of POJ or Smith for sure if there was a trade to be made.</div></div>

I agree Petry isn't a "need" for the Hawks, but were Foligno and Perry really needs either? Also, I think you're wrong and the Hawks would welcome an early twenties LHD. POJ or Smith would immediately be the best LHD on the Hawks roster and wouldn't be taking a spot from anyone in the immediate future (i.e. Korchinski). A 2nd and a promising young NHL d-man is more than enough to take on two years of Petry (especially when the Hawks could flip him in 2024-2025 to a contender for assets).
Forum: Armchair-GM6 juill. 2023 à 15 h 9
Sujet: EK to PIT Route
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sharcuda22</b></div><div>NHL insiders have consistently said that if the sharks get it down to a 4x8 then they think a deal will happen. Retaining that much (close to half) is not something mike Grier has expressed interest in. I also think that Tyler Myers is who the sharks will fill the vacant RD spot with and then Gawanke will probably get a shot in the NHL too. Personally I think the penguins are out and the canes, but allegedly there are 3 metro teams and a surprise team still in the mix</div></div>

I guess we'll see what the retention looks like. In this scenario, Pittsburgh can only acquire EK a few certain ways. I think the Sharks will be hard-pressed to get a return they like without retaining a decent amount. 4x8 isn't terrible though, just only works for a few select teams.
Forum: Armchair-GM6 juill. 2023 à 0 h 14
Forum: Armchair-GM5 juill. 2023 à 19 h 26
Forum: Armchair-GM5 juill. 2023 à 19 h 21
Sujet: Doused Flames
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>I am hearing a tonne of excuses. The reality is, TO has no need for a goalie. They have 3 of them on the roster who are good. Woll looks like a keeper for sure. Played really really well last year and Samsonov was a top 5 goalie in the regular season. Vlader had a poor save percentage and a poor goals against average. He's all yours</div></div>

Samsonov is not signed. If you say TOR has no need for goalie and should run with Woll, Murray and an oft injured Samsonov then be my guest lol. Look, I'm not saying Vladar is the answer, but he's an upgrade at the 1B position. I would hate to see the Leafs current roster waste away because they can't improve in net. Trust me, you'll be shaking in your boots when one of Murray or Woll have to start a playoff game when Samsonov pulls a hammy.
Forum: Armchair-GM5 juill. 2023 à 19 h 18
Sujet: Tribute to RedWingsLover69
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RedWing9119</b></div><div>The value is way more than what they paid. Yzerman isn't stupid even if other people are; they"ll either except what we offered (which is assuredly less than this) or sell him somewhere else as a rental and we'll sign him next year for free. Ottawa <em>has no leverage.</em> As far as Granlund goes again;<em>you have no leverage</em>. You don't dictate trades when you're dumping a player. LA just paid the equivalent of two 2nds to dump 6 million over two years. There's only a couple of teams left that can even take this trade so; sorry bud.</div></div>

You have to be delusional to think this is way more value than Ottawa paid. 7th + 39th overall in 2022 &gt; Perron, Veleno, late 2024 1st. And then the thirds in each deal just wash. You cannot tell me that Ottawa is getting more in this Detroit deal without showing extreme Red Wings bias lol.
Forum: Armchair-GM5 juill. 2023 à 17 h 36
Sujet: Doused Flames
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>Calgary played a defence first system, which should have meant their goalies had an easier time. Despite that, still all 4 goalies who suited up for TO had better seasons than Vlader. But of course, you'll argue that it's somehow not your goalies fault they had bad numbers. It's also not the defence, they are all amazing, same with the forwards. Likely the coaches fault since he's not there now.</div></div>

Trust me, CGY has far better personnel on the blueline than the Leafs do. However, it was the systems employed by the staff that didn't utilize the strengths of that personnel. Did CGY limit bulk amount of shots from the outside by pressing the perimeter and controlling the puck? Yes! Did they give up extremely high danger opportunities on a very low volume of shots? Yes! So here's a math problem for you. Goalie A stops 33/36 and has a .916 sv %, however, the majority of those 36 aren't high danger and are easy stops from the outside. Goalie B only stops 19/22 and has an .864 sv % (yikes right?). However, if you watch the game you'll see that a third of those 22 shots were high danger scoring opportunities and the goalie didn't have an insane volume of easy stops from the outside. You see, this is why looking at stats isn't the only way you should evaluate players Mr. RipNasty. Calgary didn't play a defence first system either, they played a limit shot volume system, those are two very different things lol.
Forum: Armchair-GM5 juill. 2023 à 16 h 37
Forum: Armchair-GM5 juill. 2023 à 15 h 48
Sujet: Doused Flames
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>So do all Calgary flames not understand how to look at stats? Literally all 4 goalies who played in TO's net last season had better stats than Vlader. Even Murray was better. So no Vlader doesn't give TO a better tandem than they have had in years. Woll and Murray are both better.</div></div>

Quoting "stats" as an argument is about as simple minded as you can be. Comparing Vladar in CGY to Woll in TOR are completely different things. For goalies especially, situational based success is extremely evident. For example, you can't tell me that saying Joseph Woll is better than Karel Vejmelka is accurate, because one played behind the leafs and the other the Coyotes. Saying Matt Murray is better than Dan Vladar is laughable, and this is coming from a Pens fan who wants nothing but success for MM.
Forum: Armchair-GM4 juill. 2023 à 19 h 14