Forget Dubois to MTL

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Créé par: Blazingbat11

Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal

Date de création initiale: 8 juin 2023

Publié: 8 juin 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

If what Arpon Basu from The Athletic is reporting is true, PLD and his agent will be seeking a $9mil AAV x 8 year deal, and will submit to the Jets a 5-6 team list he’d be willing to sign long term with.

Jeff Marek believes that 3 of those teams are Montreal (obviously), the New York Rangers, and the Minnesota Wild. We can all speculate about the other 2-3 teams on his list. Who do you think are the other teams?

If this is the case, forget Dubois to MTL. Unless GM Kent Hughes can pull off some sort of miracle, and get PLD at a reasonable price and a contract similar to Suzuki…. I don’t think he’s worth all the trouble.

So Jets fans rejoice, Habs probably aren’t getting Dubois.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Dubois, Pierre-Luc		8	9 000 000 $

Transactions

MTL

Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]

WPG

Dach, Kirby
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (MTL)

Détails additionnels:

What the Jets want

MTL

WPG

Dvorak, Christian
Tuch, Luke [Liste de réserve]
Ylönen, Jesse [Droits de RFA]
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)

Détails additionnels:

What the Habs are most likely to offer

Rachats de contrats

Karl Alzner: 833 333 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
19	83 500 000 $	68 911 666 $	1 170 000 $	4 195 000 $	14 588 334 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Hoffman, Mike 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Suzuki, Nick 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ C UFA - 7	Gallagher, Brendan 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4
Pitlick, Rem 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Dubois, Pierre-Luc 9 000 000 $9 000 000 $ C UFA - 8	Anderson, Josh 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 4
Pezzetta, Michael 812 500 $812 500 $ AG, AD UFA - 2		Armia, Joel 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
	Evans, Jake 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ C UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Matheson, Michael 4 875 000 $4 875 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 3	Savard, David 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Allen, Jake 1 925 000 $1 925 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 2
Edmundson, Joel 875 000 $875 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 1	Barron, Justin 925 000 $925 000 $ (275 000 $$275K) DD RFA - 1	Montembeault, Samuel 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ G UFA - 1
Harris, Jordan 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 2	Kovacevic, Johnathan 766 667 $766 667 $ DD UFA - 2
Guhle, Kaiden 863 333 $863 333 $ (420 000 $$420K) DG/DD RFA - 2	Wideman, Chris 762 500 $762 500 $ DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
	Caufield, Cole 7 850 000 $7 850 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 8	Price, Carey 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 3
	Slafkovsky, Juraj 950 000 $950 000 $ (3 500 000 $$4M) AD, AG RFA - 2
	Xhekaj, Arber 828 333 $828 333 $ DG/DD RFA - 1

8 juin 2023 à 16 h 13

WPGSK

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OH YA BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHHAAHAHA. So much for the Habs fans saying MTL is getting Dubois for Nothing because the Jets have no control, etc.

We are rejoicing... BIG TIME!!!!!!

Thinking similar to the M. Tkachuk deal.

Oh... we will take Dach and your #5 pick now. hahahahahaha

8 juin 2023 à 16 h 17

JAKE6

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Quoting: WPGSK

dubois is good but not that good.

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8 juin 2023 à 16 h 19

jonh514

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I agree with what you posted. A second line center at 9M is not really attractive.

8 juin 2023 à 16 h 20

Windjammer

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That can't be right. Montreal fans have been assuring everyone for the last year that PLD will ONLY play for Montreal and will take whatever paltry contract Montreal fans deem acceptable.

Something seems off.

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8 juin 2023 à 16 h 21

hwjw

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Quoting: JAKE6

dubois is good but not that good.

Lol, absolutely true.

Jets fans who now think they will get the moon for PLD, you are wrong. Dubois still has his issues.

It's just nice to know (as a jets fan) that we aren't being held completely hostage by a player. A fair return is all I want and I hope this means that we will get it.

8 juin 2023 à 16 h 21

Blazingbat11

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Quoting: WPGSK

My guess is Boston and Carolina are among the other teams he’d sign with. The bidding war that will ensue will definitely price out a rebuilding team like MTL.

What I find ridiculous is PLD asking for a $9mil AAV… Tkachuk gets $9.5mil AAV with Florida after a 100+pts season and suddenly Dubois wants just $500k AAV less for just putting up 63pts….. the guy can shove it…

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8 juin 2023 à 16 h 24

Subbanator7667

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This still isn't good for Winnipeg. He's handcuffed them and forced them to move him, if it's a sign and trade it will be a better result for them but if it's just him as an RFA wanting $9 million I don't think they get the return they'll want

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8 juin 2023 à 16 h 24

SK101

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Quoting: Blazingbat11

Horvat is getting 8.5 and PLD is younger/better. Matty is getting paid less cause panthers bought out RFA years

8 juin 2023 à 16 h 25

WPGSK

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Quoting: JAKE6

dubois is good but not that good.

NOT EVEN CLOSE! He's more trouble than he's worth. If MTL was going to get him for free... I was saying that Hughes should offer him $1M per year on a 1 year contact and if he did well, give him a little more and sign him for another year. If not, tell him to go whine in his crib.

WPG wanted him to go to MTL and bleep things for you guys. He's far more trouble than he's worth.

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8 juin 2023 à 16 h 26

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jonh514

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Quoting: Windjammer

Not ALL of us, FWIW.

8 juin 2023 à 16 h 27

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Quoting: Blazingbat11

Ya, people are thinking BOS, CAR, MON, NYR and 1 or 2 others.

He's more trouble than he's worth. If MTL was going to get him for free... I was saying that Hughes should offer him $1M per year on a 1 year contact and if he did well, give him a little more and sign him for another year. If not, tell him to go whine in his crib.

MTL should pass if they are as smart as I think Hughes is.

But... as a Jets fan, I want MTL to take PLD and pay through the nose...

8 juin 2023 à 16 h 29

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Quoting: jonh514

Not ALL of us, FWIW.

Just rounding off. But I hear ya' buddy!

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8 juin 2023 à 16 h 30

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Quoting: Blazingbat11

Anyone who pays him 9M (I'm sure someone will ... Maybe even WPG) will regret it. He will not be the most productive player on the team he plays for and so whomever gets more points than him will expect higher pay.

8M X 8 is the max a non-elite player should make in this league.

8 juin 2023 à 16 h 40

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He is 100% going to Montreal.

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8 juin 2023 à 16 h 43

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Blazingbat11

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Quoting: Onlyfairtrades1

He is 100% going to Montreal.

Not for Kirby Dach and a $9mil AAV deal he’s not…

8 juin 2023 à 16 h 44

#16

CF18GM

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PLD to MTL never made sense to me. Good luck anyway to whomever has to deal with him for 8Y.

8 juin 2023 à 16 h 50

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jpsnow13

You know nothing JS

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Or maybe it is just to scare the other teams interested.... 4D chess game!

NYR and Minessota doesn't have anything close to that capspace anyway.

Who cares about how much he wants. I want to be paid $9M too, doesn't mean I'm going to get it...

8x8 would be the top offer IMO.

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8 juin 2023 à 16 h 51

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Quoting: Windjammer

Hahaha 😁

8 juin 2023 à 16 h 53

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Blazingbat11

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Quoting: jpsnow13

Or maybe it is just to scare the other teams interested.... 4D chess game!

Anyway who cares about how much he wants. I want to be paid $9M too, doesn't mean I'm going to get it...

I think it should be noted that the article does suggest Dubois might be willing to take less depending on the team he’d be traded to, but a lot can be extrapolated from that…

8 juin 2023 à 17 h 13

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Onlyfairtrades1

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Quoting: Blazingbat11

Not for Kirby Dach and a $9mil AAV deal he’s not…

No idea for whom, but the $9m x 8 will happen.

9 juin 2023 à 2 h 30

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jpsnow13

You know nothing JS

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Quoting: Onlyfairtrades1

No idea for whom, but the $9m x 8 will happen.

After failing to lead in 2 organisations, I don't think he could get a better contract than Horvat or Hertl. 8-8.5 seems to be the sweet spot.

9 juin 2023 à 2 h 37

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Quoting: jpsnow13

After failing to lead in 2 organisations, I don't think he could get a better contract than Horvat or Hertl. 8-8.5 seems to be the sweet spot.

So you think the Habs won't sign him at $9m x 8 but they would at $8.5m x 8?

9 juin 2023 à 7 h 29

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jpsnow13

You know nothing JS

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Quoting: Onlyfairtrades1

So you think the Habs won't sign him at $9m x 8 but they would at $8.5m x 8?

No clue how high they would go, but the comparables call for a higher AAV than Suzuki.

The whole "not more than the captain" reasonning after Caufield's contract is apples and oranges.

History shows that when a team pay a hefty price for a player who needs a new contract, he has the upper hand in following negociations.

IMO, for any team, under $8M would be a win and over $8.5M would be pricey.

9 juin 2023 à 8 h 57

#24

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Damn almost like I've been saying for a while Dubois won't only sign in MTL and that his asking price starts with a 9

9 juin 2023 à 9 h 5

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Quoting: SK101

Horvat is getting 8.5 and PLD is younger/better. Matty is getting paid less cause panthers bought out RFA years

That sounds like a Roope Hintz number who did a max term extension with the team buying 1 RFA year and 7 UFA years.

My guess is that Dubois will ask for Tkachuk money, his destination team will counter with Hintz money and they will settle somewhere between Hintz and Barzal.

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