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Créé par: TheDuminator

Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal

Date de création initiale: 7 juin 2023

Publié: 7 juin 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Can we compete against Top-team: TML- TB- BOS- FLA-CAR- NYR or be ahead these rising team like NJ- DET- BUFF- OTT

Dach showed 1pt/match playing next to Suz&Coco
Imagine the second line....SIZE-SIZE-SIZE and SPEED

As MTL carry a lot of Depth... minor change can be made on each trade:
Like sending Kovacevic instead of Harris
Harris instead of Norlinder
Farrell instead of Ylonen or Kidney
Switch Armia with Hoffman... & Granlund to WPG
maybe Granlund instead of Dvorak... Evans
change Gurianov with Farrell
change a third for a 4th or a 2nd...!

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Gurianov, Denis	2	2 500 000 $
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël	3	2 500 000 $
Ylönen, Jesse	3	1 000 000 $
Dubois, Pierre-Luc	7	7 850 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Monahan, Sean		1	4 000 000 $

Transactions

MTL

Girard, Samuel

COL

Dvorak, Christian (2 000 000 $ retained)
Edmundson, Joel
Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (MTL)

Détails additionnels:

Dvorak 3C would support Newhook 2C and getting Eddy for the cup-run

MTL

Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]

Détails additionnels:

Let's not wait until FREE UFA

WPG

Hoffman, Mike
Norlinder, Mattias
Ylönen, Jesse
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)

Détails additionnels:

Hoffman is included only for $ return

MTL

Granlund, Mikael

PIT

Allen, Jake
Armia, Joel (1 000 000 $ retained)

MTL

Hart, Carter

PHI

Gurianov, Denis
Harris, Jordan
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (MTL)

Détails additionnels:

Harris: Philly need more a RD but most of them can play both side: Seeler, Walker. Guri would bring speed and size.

Rachats de contrats

Karl Alzner: 833 333 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Christian Dvorak: 2 000 000 $ (44.94%)
Joel Armia: 1 000 000 $ (29.41%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	83 500 000 $	82 503 166 $	1 170 000 $	4 195 000 $	996 834 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Caufield, Cole 7 850 000 $7 850 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 8	Suzuki, Nick 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ C UFA - 7	Dach, Kirby 3 362 500 $3 362 500 $ C, AD RFA - 3
Slafkovsky, Juraj 950 000 $950 000 $ (3 500 000 $$4M) AD, AG RFA - 2	Dubois, Pierre-Luc 7 850 000 $7 850 000 $ C UFA - 8	Anderson, Josh 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 4
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 2	Monahan, Sean 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 1	Gallagher, Brendan 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4
Pezzetta, Michael 812 500 $812 500 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Evans, Jake 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ C UFA - 2	Granlund, Mikael 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ C, AD UFA - 2
Pitlick, Rem 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Matheson, Michael 4 875 000 $4 875 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 3	Barron, Justin 925 000 $925 000 $ (275 000 $$275K) DD RFA - 1	Montembeault, Samuel 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ G UFA - 1
Guhle, Kaiden 863 333 $863 333 $ (420 000 $$420K) DG/DD RFA - 2	Savard, David 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Hart, Carter 3 979 000 $3 979 000 $ G RFA - 1
Xhekaj, Arber 828 333 $828 333 $ DG/DD RFA - 1	Girard, Samuel 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 4
	Kovacevic, Johnathan 766 667 $766 667 $ DD UFA - 2
	Wideman, Chris 762 500 $762 500 $ DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
		Price, Carey 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 3

7 juin 2023 à 15 h 9

Branden23

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I'm so confused, whats the point of signing Monahan to a 4mill aav contract when you acquired Granlund to be your fourth line RW???? Can't you just make Granlund ur 3rd line C and not sign Monahan lmao

7 juin 2023 à 15 h 10

mv21227

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Don’t see why the Avs would move Girard for a mediocre 3C, a mediocre 3rd pairing dman, and a 3rd round pick

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7 juin 2023 à 15 h 11

TheDuminator

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HabsFan

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Quoting: Branden23

Goal was to move Allen & Armia for a Bottom 6... and Granlund didn't play well last season (little like Dvorak for us)
and he will give us depth as Gally will be injured again and again

7 juin 2023 à 15 h 13

TheDuminator

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HabsFan

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Quoting: mv21227

Don’t see why the Avs would move Girard for a mediocre 3C, a mediocre 3rd pairing dman, and a 3rd round pick

OK you never saw Eddy playing when he was healthy... he is not a dump/mediocre... he is what you need on PK and in your zone to move forward in playoff.

7 juin 2023 à 15 h 23

Pensfan303

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Easy no, You can keep those 2 horrible contracts

7 juin 2023 à 15 h 23

mv21227

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Quoting: DomCholette

OK you never saw Eddy playing when he was healthy... he is not a dump/mediocre... he is what you need on PK and in your zone to move forward in playoff.

https://evolving-hockey.com/stats/players/?_inputs_&player=%22Joel%20Edmundson%22

https://ibb.co/WzdyjnR

Edmundson isn’t good

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7 juin 2023 à 15 h 25

notbiased

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if that's your offer, im pretty sure they're going to tell that you can wait for free agency

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7 juin 2023 à 15 h 26

Anus_McLeod

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If Montreal is willing to retain 2M on Dvorak, then I think Colorado is interested if a reasonable futures package gets it done. I don't think they are interested in giving up Girard in favor of Edmundson though, so this isn't the right deal imo.

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7 juin 2023 à 15 h 31

TheDuminator

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HabsFan

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Quoting: Pensfan303

Easy no, You can keep those 2 horrible contracts

Everyone in here is paying to get Granlund out the book... getting a Good 2G and Armia at 2,4M isn't bad

7 juin 2023 à 15 h 32

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TheDuminator

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HabsFan

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Quoting: Anus_McLeod

Ok who would you target instead of Edmundson... Harris or Kovacevic?

7 juin 2023 à 15 h 33

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sk540

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Flyers decline, need more.

7 juin 2023 à 15 h 35

#12

Pensfan303

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Quoting: DomCholette

Everyone in here is paying to get Granlund out the book... getting a Good 2G and Armia at 2,4M isn't bad

Would much rather buy out Granlund and spend that 4mil in much better ways

7 juin 2023 à 15 h 36

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TheDuminator

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HabsFan

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Quoting: sk540

Flyers decline, need more.

That's what you answer everywhere... maybe it is you who ask for TOO MUCH: 1st (between 15-20) A-Prospect in Farrell... and a young NHL cheap player with Size and Speed in Gurianov

7 juin 2023 à 15 h 38

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TheDuminator

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HabsFan

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Quoting: Pensfan303

Would much rather buy out Granlund and spend that 4mil in much better ways

and carry this buyout for an extra 2 years...

7 juin 2023 à 15 h 56

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sk540

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Quoting: DomCholette

That's what you answer everywhere... maybe it is you who ask for TOO MUCH: 1st (between 15-20) A-Prospect in Farrell... and a young NHL cheap player with Size and Speed in Gurianov

No, it's just the fact that no team is going to add the value needed to balance the trade. Hart won't be traded unless a team absolutely 100% overpays for him. And since that usually doesn't happen with goalie trades, proposing trades is like a fools errand kinda.

7 juin 2023 à 16 h 3

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Anus_McLeod

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Quoting: DomCholette

Ok who would you target instead of Edmundson... Harris or Kovacevic?

It's not that a different player would be preferable. It's more that I think the Avs are happy with their D and will try to keep them intact (i.e. they wont want to move Girard). Doing so requires some value in the middle six, which is why Dvorak makes sense, but only if they can get him for picks/prospects. And quite frankly, I'm not sure Colorado has the right pieces.

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7 juin 2023 à 16 h 3

#17

Windjammer

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Nothing in it for Winnipeg. They obviously say no.

7 juin 2023 à 16 h 22

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MeetYourMakar

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Quoting: mv21227

Don’t see why the Avs would move Girard for a mediocre 3C, a mediocre 3rd pairing dman, and a 3rd round pick

Good things come in 3s?

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7 juin 2023 à 17 h 4

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HabsFan61

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There is zero reason to trade for Dubois.

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