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Créé par: DQavis
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 4 juin 2023
Publié: 4 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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MTL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
BUF
  1. Savard, David
Détails additionnels:
veteran right handed d fits in the top 4 for buffalo who should be looking to compete soon
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MTL
  1. Durzi, Sean
  2. Petersen, Cal
Détails additionnels:
saves around 1.2 mil and adds 2 vets for a overpaid backup and durzi whos young but doesnt fit there teams needs
LAK
  1. Allen, Jake
  2. Edmundson, Joel
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
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MTL
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    2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
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    2. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]
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    2. Matheson, Michael
    3. Primeau, Cayden
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    4 juin 2023 à 18 h 26
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    The Jets aren't giving up good players for cap dumps and a no value prospect.
    4 juin 2023 à 18 h 30
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    Quoting: Windjammer
    The Jets aren't giving up good players for cap dumps and a no value prospect.


    cheaper younger way better defender goalie swaps u get ur back up now we get a potential starter for future anderson 1 2 3rd for dubs
    4 juin 2023 à 18 h 34
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    LA likely rejects
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    4 juin 2023 à 18 h 36
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    Quoting: Windjammer
    The Jets aren't giving up good players for cap dumps and a no value prospect.


    Quoting: Windjammer
    The Jets aren't giving up good players for cap dumps and a no value prospect.


    Quoting: Windjammer
    The Jets aren't giving up good players for cap dumps and a no value prospect.


    Yeah, probably takes Anderson/Dvorak,Edmundson, Mesar/Roy, Primeau and 29
    4 juin 2023 à 18 h 46
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    Los Angeles declines. The combined cap hit of Edmundson and Allen is $7.35 million and the combined cap hit of Durzi and Petersen is $6.7 million. We would do better to keep Petersen and trade Durzi separately for a draft pick or two.
    4 juin 2023 à 18 h 47
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    Quoting: DQavis
    cheaper younger way better defender goalie swaps u get ur back up now we get a potential starter for future anderson 1 2 3rd for dubs


    No one is taking Anderson or Matheson without a few top 15 unprotected 1sts coming with each. Those are probably 2 of the top 5 worst contracts in the league. You don't have enough there to dump one of them, never mind both of them.
    4 juin 2023 à 19 h 6
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    Quoting: Windjammer
    No one is taking Anderson or Matheson without a few top 15 unprotected 1sts coming with each. Those are probably 2 of the top 5 worst contracts in the league. You don't have enough there to dump one of them, never mind both of them.


    LMAO, Matheson has a cheaper contract than Pionk and out scored him in half as many games. If that is one of the worst contracts in the league then Pionk's is the absolute worst!
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    4 juin 2023 à 19 h 19
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    wow montreal certainly doesnt offer that for dubois..not even close.. you keep him
    4 juin 2023 à 19 h 20
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    Jets are not trading their top goalie prospect with Helle unsigned.

    No interest in Matheson as it is mostly a lateral move with an extra year of commitment.

    Anderson no doubt has Winnipeg on his no trade list.

    Need a guy that can help now as part of a Dubois deal OR a top prospect. Not the 31/32nd pick .
    4 juin 2023 à 19 h 25
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    Quoting: Windjammer
    The Jets aren't giving up good players for cap dumps and a no value prospect.


    Now Matheson is a cap dump?! He's really freaking good.
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    4 juin 2023 à 19 h 28
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    Quoting: Jets1pt0

    No interest in Matheson as it is mostly a lateral move with an extra year of commitment.


    Listen I'm not arguing with you about trade values and all the rest, but Matheson is just plain better than Schmidt. Ask Sidney Crosby if you don't believe me or any Pens fan on this website how good he is
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    4 juin 2023 à 19 h 30
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    Quoting: jonh514
    Now Matheson is a cap dump?! He's really freaking good.


    I don't think so. I know Pittsburgh insisted that Montreal take his contract in the Petry trade, as they needed to clear a bad contract. I can understand he may be good in Montreal, but that doesn't change what he is. Almost 5.0 mil for an average bottom pair 29 YO is a lot.

    He wouldn't waive for Winnipeg anyways though.
    4 juin 2023 à 19 h 55
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    Quoting: jonh514
    Listen I'm not arguing with you about trade values and all the rest, but Matheson is just plain better than Schmidt. Ask Sidney Crosby if you don't believe me or any Pens fan on this website how good he is


    Not disagreeing Matheson is better. Just not the value /position the Jets need.
    4 juin 2023 à 21 h 23
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    I think Sabres accept, he fits all boxes, vet, right shot and affordable.
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    4 juin 2023 à 21 h 39
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    Quoting: Lavallois
    How can one be so ignorant/asshole/homer and have 12k posts?


    That's rude man. Say he's wrong. Say he has no idea what he's talking about when valuing players proposed in trades to the Jets, but please don't call him ignorant or an asshole.

    Regardless of what you may think, if you try and engage with him, he will never make it personal the way you did.
    4 juin 2023 à 21 h 43
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    Quoting: Windjammer
    I don't think so. I know Pittsburgh insisted that Montreal take his contract in the Petry trade, as they needed to clear a bad contract. I can understand he may be good in Montreal, but that doesn't change what he is. Almost 5.0 mil for an average bottom pair 29 YO is a lot.

    He wouldn't waive for Winnipeg anyways though.


    You really do not have a leg to stand on here sir. Matheson is to Montreal what Morrissey is to Winnipeg.

    If you ask most Pens fans around here, they will tell you that It's their opinion that Pittsburgh would have made the playoffs instead of Winnipeg if they had not traded Matheson.
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    4 juin 2023 à 22 h 11
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    You really do not have a leg to stand on here sir. Matheson is to Montreal what Morrissey is to Winnipeg.

    If you ask most Pens fans around here, they will tell you that It's their opinion that Pittsburgh would have made the playoffs instead of Winnipeg if they had not traded Matheson.


    Okay, I probably do throw the "cap dump" term around too much, especially for Montreal players. However, I do remember that Pittsburgh fans did consider him one of the worst contracts on their team a few short years ago.

    I mean if you look at his trade history, he's never been traded for much of value, why? I would think it's probably because he doesn't carry a lot of value.

    Anyways, I think we can leave it as Matheson isn't waiving for Winnipeg and since Winnipeg already has too many LHD they're not going to be looking for another one that is 29 and paid on the high side when they are trading one of their prime assets, as he doesn't improve Winnipeg enough to make it worthwhile.

    How does that sound?
    4 juin 2023 à 22 h 29
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    Quoting: Windjammer
    Okay, I probably do throw the "cap dump" term around too much, especially for Montreal players. However, I do remember that Pittsburgh fans did consider him one of the worst contracts on their team a few short years ago.

    I mean if you look at his trade history, he's never been traded for much of value, why? I would think it's probably because he doesn't carry a lot of value.

    Anyways, I think we can leave it as Matheson isn't waiving for Winnipeg and since Winnipeg already has too many LHD they're not going to be looking for another one that is 29 and paid on the high side when they are trading one of their prime assets, as he doesn't improve Winnipeg enough to make it worthwhile.

    How does that sound?


    Progress at least. Zero chance Matheson, who was born in Montreal, and who's agent up until 1 year ago was Kent Hughes, is traded.

    He was not a throw in for a cap dump, he was a player our GM valued and targeted.
    5 juin 2023 à 8 h 11
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    I think Sabres accept, he fits all boxes, vet, right shot and affordable.


    Buffalo emphatically says ,"Yes!" to that Savard trade.
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    6 juin 2023 à 18 h 57
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    Los Angeles declines. The combined cap hit of Edmundson and Allen is $7.35 million and the combined cap hit of Durzi and Petersen is $6.7 million. We would do better to keep Petersen and trade Durzi separately for a draft pick or two.



    eddy 50% retained
    6 juin 2023 à 19 h 36
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    eddy 50% retained


    When creating a trade, you can include the retention in the trade box with that player. Just know that when entering the dollar amount of the retention, don't use commas.
    7 juin 2023 à 13 h 25
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    When creating a trade, you can include the retention in the trade box with that player. Just know that when entering the dollar amount of the retention, don't use commas.


    **** i thought i retained mb
     
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