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Sharks fans- Whats the price for 4

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Équipe: 2023-24 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 26 mai 2023
Publié: 26 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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DET
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (SJS)
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  1. Mastrosimone, Robert [Liste de réserve]
  2. McIsaac, Jared [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (DET)
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26 mai 2023 à 18 h 55
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Don't think we get 4 without losing one of our best prospects.
26 mai 2023 à 18 h 57
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Starts with both 1sts this year or detroits 1st and a high end prospect. This ain’t close
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26 mai 2023 à 18 h 59
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No one's trading down from the top-5 imo.
26 mai 2023 à 19 h 3
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Starts with both 1sts this year or detroits 1st and a high end prospect. This ain’t close


I'd do 9OA + 17OA + 41OA
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26 mai 2023 à 19 h 3
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Top prospect and 2 1sts but both of those prospects fill positions we already have talent at so easy pass
Now if you had a really good RD prospect and your 1st and we may think about it!
26 mai 2023 à 19 h 4
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
I'd do 9OA + 17OA + 41OA


That’s not bad, I like Dvorsky and he might be there at 9 and 17 should still have a solid RD.
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26 mai 2023 à 19 h 4
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Way more than what you suggested. Too much in fact,

9th OA + Simon Edvinsson + Michael Rasmussen. If I were the Sharks that's what I'd demand.
26 mai 2023 à 19 h 4
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
I'd do 9OA + 17OA + 41OA

You get 5 overall and a third for this. 4 overall is gonna take you another second
26 mai 2023 à 19 h 6
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
That’s not bad, I like Dvorsky and he might be there at 9 and 17 should still have a solid RD.


9 Gets ya Dvorsky and 17OA+41OA+something may get you 11-13OA; ASP will probably be there. Could also do 17OA for 21OA+3rd+4th and snag Willander.
26 mai 2023 à 19 h 7
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You get 5 overall and a third for this. 4 overall is gonna take you another second


How 'bout a third
26 mai 2023 à 19 h 7
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
How 'bout a third


Not enough, maybe a third and Detroit take back a bad contract
26 mai 2023 à 19 h 7
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Not enough


How about a third and a good sandwich
26 mai 2023 à 19 h 8
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
How about a third and a good sandwich

Deal
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26 mai 2023 à 19 h 9
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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
Deal


I'd do 9OA+17OA+42OA+43OA for 4OA + your 3rd and a 5th.
26 mai 2023 à 19 h 16
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If we’re trying to keep it realistic here, I doubt Detroit moves BOTH 1st round picks in the deal. Seems too high in such a deep draft to only move up 5 spots when the Wings could still get a good player at 9th and 17th. Personally I’d think it’d look something like this:

San Jose Sharks
9th overall pick (Detroit’s 1st round pick)
42nd overall pick (St. Louis’ 2nd round pick)
Jonathan Berggren
Anton Johansson

Detroit Red Wings
4th overall (San Jose’s 1st round pick)
130th overall pick (Columbus’ 5th round pick)
26 mai 2023 à 19 h 27
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
I'd do 9OA+17OA+42OA+43OA for 4OA + your 3rd and a 5th.


Fair from both side from a neutral point of view
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26 mai 2023 à 19 h 30
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Quoting: GreatWhiteNorth
If we’re trying to keep it realistic here, I doubt Detroit moves BOTH 1st round picks in the deal. Seems too high in such a deep draft to only move up 5 spots when the Wings could still get a good player at 9th and 17th. Personally I’d think it’d look something like this:

San Jose Sharks
9th overall pick (Detroit’s 1st round pick)
42nd overall pick (St. Louis’ 2nd round pick)
Jonathan Berggren
Anton Johansson

Detroit Red Wings
4th overall (San Jose’s 1st round pick)
130th overall pick (Columbus’ 5th round pick)


Sharks decline that trade. If you want them to move from 4th to 9th you'll have to make it worth their while. The 9OA is a given. Adding the 42nd OA, Berggren and Johansson to that isn't worth them losing one of Michkov, Carlsson or Smith. They'd need something they couldn't refuse. They'd need Edvinsson. For the Wings that's simply a non starter. I'd only give up Edvinsson in a package if it were for 1st or 2nd OA.
26 mai 2023 à 19 h 37
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Quoting: Spaceman
Sharks decline that trade. If you want them to move from 4th to 9th you'll have to make it worth their while. The 9OA is a given. Adding the 42nd OA, Berggren and Johansson to that isn't worth them losing one of Michkov, Carlsson or Smith. They'd need something they couldn't refuse. They'd need Edvinsson. For the Wings that's simply a non starter. I'd only give up Edvinsson in a package if it were for 1st or 2nd OA.


The difference in the quality of prospect that you get at 4th this year isn’t much different than one you’d get at 9th. There’s not THAT much of a gap. The 42nd overall pick is basically them moving up 88 spots later in the draft which is pretty significant value for the gap between 4 and 9. Then you had in Berggren who’s a young player that they can insert in their lineup immediately, and Johansson who is Detroit’s 2nd best right handed defence prospect is that looks like a big draft steal (and fits San Jose’s organizational depth need).. it’s a more than fair offer and I don’t think any team is going to significantly overpay like you said because the difference between the draft slots isn’t that much quality this year
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26 mai 2023 à 20 h 32
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Buium, Tuomisto, Mazur, #17

SJS signs Zucker, Mayfield...offersheets Troy Terry...(ok, too much)
26 mai 2023 à 20 h 35
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
I'd do 9OA + 17OA + 41OA


Not bad, kind of still leaves me wanting more but not far off. I think if San Jose did that and still got like Benson at 9 and ASP at 17 that would be awesome.
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26 mai 2023 à 20 h 58
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I'd probably give up the 9th and 17th for Michkov but unless we are getting Carlsson I wouldn't give up more
27 mai 2023 à 0 h 18
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Quoting: glarson17
Starts with both 1sts this year or detroits 1st and a high end prospect. This ain’t close


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Starts with both 1sts this year or detroits 1st and a high end prospect. This ain’t close


That’s why I asked…
27 mai 2023 à 0 h 19
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Quoting: Spaceman
Way more than what you suggested. Too much in fact,

9th OA + Simon Edvinsson + Michael Rasmussen. If I were the Sharks that's what I'd demand.


This is silly. I may do Edvinsson 1 for 1 for 4OA but definitely not with 9 and Ras
27 mai 2023 à 0 h 22
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Quoting: GreatWhiteNorth
If we’re trying to keep it realistic here, I doubt Detroit moves BOTH 1st round picks in the deal. Seems too high in such a deep draft to only move up 5 spots when the Wings could still get a good player at 9th and 17th. Personally I’d think it’d look something like this:

San Jose Sharks
9th overall pick (Detroit’s 1st round pick)
42nd overall pick (St. Louis’ 2nd round pick)
Jonathan Berggren
Anton Johansson

Detroit Red Wings
4th overall (San Jose’s 1st round pick)
130th overall pick (Columbus’ 5th round pick)


Replace Berggren with Hanas and I probably do that.
27 mai 2023 à 0 h 24
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Buium, Tuomisto, Mazur, #17

SJS signs Zucker, Mayfield...offersheets Troy Terry...(ok, too much)


I love Mazur but I’d do this. Doubt the Sharks would
 
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