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Créé par: Bigred_Minny

Équipe: 2023-24 Wild du Minnesota

Date de création initiale: 26 mai 2023

Publié: 26 mai 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Hear me out...
first move, Trade for Logan Cooley...
We all know that AZ is in a weird space right now. Rumor has it that Clayton Keller wants out, and he shares an agent with Cooley. So, the Wild trade former 1st round pick Marco Rossi, 2nd round pick Calan Addison, and Alex Goligoski to AZ for Cooley and a 2nd rd pick. AZ gets two young players who are ALREADY SIGNED and veteran D-man who helps them get to the cap floor and has played in AZ before...while giving up a stud prospect that they are not 100% sure they can sign. Win/Win

The second move...maybe a little more risque, moving RFA Gustavsson.
Gus' value might never be higher and he's an RFA to a cap strapped Wild. On top of all that, he probably isn't the future, with Wally maybe only a year away. Get the value out of Gus while we can...while trying to help up the middle. Montreal is in a tough spot with goaltending right now...Carey Price is??, what, retiring or LTIR? They have prospects and position to move. So Gus and a 2024 2nd rd pick to Montreal for the 5th overall, Lane Hutson, and Oliver Kapanen. Hutson is going back to BU for one more year, and Kapanen can go to Iowa for the season.

The 3rd move...While I'd be ok staying at 5 (Montreal's pick) and taking Will Smith...I think you have to aim high. Trade 5 and 21 to Anaheim for #2...take Adam Fantilli. (Cooley and Fantilli up the middle for the next 13 years would be great.)

4th move...Trade for Niederreiter. Would be a perfect 3rd line guy, has one year left on his deal. Gotten more snarl in his game as he has gotten older. Ryan Hartman has one year left on his deal...his value is pretty high right now, especially when you take into account his contract. However, with the additions of Cooley and Fantilli, Hartman doesn't really have a home anymore. Hartman and '25 3rd pick for Nino.

RFA's...
I think it's a given that we sign Mason Shaw, probably spends all year on LTIR, but the guy is a grinder. Great 3rd or 4th line guy...PK guy, only 24.
Sign Hunter Jones...the guy is a former 2nd rd pick. Give him a shot at the net with MAF splitting time and teaching.

UFA's
-Internal...
Ryan Reeves, I think it's obvious, if he'll take 2yrs at $1m a year.
Zane McIntyre, start he season in Iowa could backup MAF if Jones struggles.
-External...
Scott Mayfield, solid 3rd pair D-man 3-$7.5m

Promotions...
Sammy Walker
Daemon Hunt

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

LISTE DE RÉSERVE		ANS	CAP HIT
Kapanen, Oliver		3	875 000 $
Cooley, Logan		3	950 000 $

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Jones, Hunter		3	900 000 $
Shaw, Mason		3	900 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Reaves, Ryan	2	1 000 000 $
McIntyre, Zane	2	800 000 $
Mayfield, Scott	3	2 500 000 $

CRÉÉ		ANS	CAP HIT
Fantilli, Adam		3	950 000 $

Transactions

MIN

Cooley, Logan [Liste de réserve]
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (WSH)

ARI

MIN

Hutson, Lane [Liste de réserve]
Kapanen, Oliver [Liste de réserve]
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (MTL)

MTL

Gustavsson, Filip [Droits de RFA]
Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (MIN)

MIN

Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (ANA)

ANA

Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (MIN)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (MTL)

MIN

Niederreiter, Nino

WPG

Hartman, Ryan
Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (MIN)

Rachats de contrats

Zach Parise: 7 371 794 $
Ryan Suter: 7 371 794 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	84 000 000 $	83 626 921 $	0 $	140 000 $	373 079 $

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Kaprizov, Kirill 9 000 000 $9 000 000 $ AG UFA - 3	Cooley, Logan 950 000 $950 000 $ C RFA - 3	Zuccarello, Mats 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Johansson, Marcus 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ AG, AD NTC UFA - 2	Fantilli, Adam 950 000 $950 000 $	Boldy, Matthew 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 7
Niederreiter, Nino 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Eriksson Ek, Joel 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ C UFA - 6	Foligno, Marcus 3 100 000 $3 100 000 $ AD, AG NMC UFA - 1
Dewar, Connor 800 000 $800 000 $ AG, C RFA - 1	Gaudreau, Frédérick 2 100 000 $2 100 000 $ C, AG M-NTC UFA - 5	Reaves, Ryan 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AD UFA - 3
Walker, Samuel 855 000 $855 000 $ (57 500 $$58K) AD, AG RFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Middleton, Jake 2 450 000 $2 450 000 $ DG UFA - 2	Spurgeon, Jared 7 575 000 $7 575 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 4	Fleury, Marc-André 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 1
Brodin, Jonas 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 5	Faber, Brock 925 000 $925 000 $ DD RFA - 2	Jones, Hunter 900 000 $900 000 $ G RFA - 1
Hunt, Daemon 828 333 $828 333 $ (82 500 $$82K) DG RFA - 2	Mayfield, Scott 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ DD UFA - 7

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Merrill, Jon 1 200 000 $1 200 000 $ DG UFA - 2		Shaw, Mason 900 000 $900 000 $ AG, C RFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Kaprizov, K.		Cooley, L.		Boldy, M.
	Zuccarello, M.		Hunt, D.

Avantage numérique 2
Johansson, M.		Fantilli, A.		Niederreiter, N.
	Spurgeon, J.		Faber, B.

Infériorité numérique 1
	Eriksson Ek, J.	Foligno, M.
	Middleton, J.	Spurgeon, J.

Infériorité numérique 2
	Gaudreau, F.	Niederreiter, N.
	Brodin, J.	Faber, B.

26 mai 2023 à 18 h 29

LosPatos

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These are certainly trades

Fat_Geralt, OldNYIfan et Just_A_Guess a aimé ceci.

26 mai 2023 à 18 h 33

GiggywithGibby

Future Ducks legend

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It's hilarious that you think the Ducks would move the Fantilli pick for that.

Only tea. wed trade the Fantilli pick to is Columbus for 3OA and the Kings 1st because we decided we liked Carlsson more, we're not dropping all the way back to Will Smith at 5.

SKWPG, Fat_Geralt, OldNYIfan and 1 other person a aimé ceci.

26 mai 2023 à 18 h 36

SKWPG

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Some really bizarre deals here. I'm guessing this is supposed to be for MIN? I guess? Not really sure. You leave MIN in a horrible situation with goaltending.

I'm going to assume you are trying to get some future superstars and let them suffer horribly for a year and then draft high in 2024 and then get a goalie and turn it around? That fits with your title / description. Right?

That's all I can think of.

The MIN / MTL deal is so off there aren't even words for it. Neither team goes for it. MIN trades their young, potentially star / starting goalie for years to come for 2 assets that MTL would pretty much NEVER give up.... Lane and their 5th overall pick. OH, can't wait for both sides to go off on ya for this one.

ANA is not giving up Fantilli.

WPG does NOT want Hartman. Nino quickly became a leader and role model on the Jets, so they would want better than what they paid for him in return and again... DO NOT want Hartman.

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26 mai 2023 à 18 h 37

MoSeider53

Future Norris guy

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Rossi's a joke and the rest of that doesn't get you Logan Cooley.

Montreal passes, Your lame offer doesn't get you Hutson and a the 5th overall pick.

Even more laugh

is that you think the 5th overall and 21st overall gets you a top 2 pick. Talking about living in a fantasy world.

FYI Logan Cooley is playing another season at the University of Minnesota. And none of your garbage is getting any of those players.

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26 mai 2023 à 18 h 43

GuyGuyGuy

Prime Primeau

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Incredibly horrible trade for every team not named Minnesota. It’s not even close

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26 mai 2023 à 18 h 51

ohmyjlord

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Hear me out...no !

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26 mai 2023 à 19 h 0

OldNYIfan

Once a Kings Fan Too

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Welcome to CapFriendly. Sometimes, it's not too friendly.

Not a great first effort. The first three trades are HUGELY off. Take away the Washington second, add your own 2023 first and Arizona still says No. Take away Hutson and Kapanen and add your own 2023 first and Montreal still says No. Add Logan Cooley to the third trade and Anaheim might say Yes, but who cares because you won't get Logan Cooley either with your offer as I amended it or any other combination which Minnesota might come up with unless it includes Boldy or Kaprizov, which it wouldn't.

Don't be discouraged. We all struggled at first. Keep trying!

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26 mai 2023 à 20 h 20

jpsnow13

You know nothing JS

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You obviously have put a lot of effort into this and the result is terrible one sided traded to be laugh about. Sorry for the time lost.

26 mai 2023 à 21 h 51

JeffGorton

Jeff Gorton

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Habs wouldnt even accept this trade if you added Kaprizov to it

26 mai 2023 à 21 h 59

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Bigred_Minny

Démarrer sujet

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Quoting: JeffGorton

Habs wouldnt even accept this trade if you added Kaprizov to it

That’s the dumbest comment in this forum…and that’s saying something.

26 mai 2023 à 22 h 53

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JeffGorton

Jeff Gorton

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Quoting: Bigred_Minny

That’s the dumbest comment in this forum…and that’s saying something.

You think its stupid the Habs wouldnt trade 5th overall and Lane Hutson for Kaprisov and Gustavsson.

Lets break it down

The player selected 5th overall will be slightly worse than Kaprizov like Smith or Benson but if Michkov is available, its not even a debate. Michkov will be better than Kaprizov

Hutson is an A+ defensive prospect. Dominating everywhere he plays. Will be a bonified #1 D man

Gustavsson has had 1 good season in front of one of the better d cores in the league. Kinda like how Cam Talbot was so good on the Rangers. His numbers arent sustainable in any way.

So explain to me how the Habs would even acknowledge that trade with the info given below

26 mai 2023 à 23 h 31

#12

Bigred_Minny

Démarrer sujet

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Quoting: JeffGorton

. (I think you mean above, but that not here or there)

I'm saying, you comment that the "Havs would accept the trade with Kaprizov in it" ...is DUMB. They would sprint to the fax machine.

Kaprizov is a top 15 player in the league...the Wild won't trade Kap for the 5th straight up. The 5th pick is a great pick, and I hope he works out for you, but it's not a guarantee...don't start measuring that banner of the rafters just yet!

#5 pick the last 10 years...Elias Lindholm, Michael Del Colle (who?), Noah Hanifin, Olli Juolevi, Elias Pettersson, Barrett Hayton, Alex Turcotte, Jake Sanderson, Kent Johnson, Shane Wright

You wan't to argue that Mont wouldn't trade 5 and Hutson for Gus...ok, that might have been wishful thinking (but look around, seems to be a theme on here). But Kirill is better than anything they are going to draft, today.

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