This is not happening. Idk if you know that but it’s not happening

What part?

Honestly, respect from a NYR fan.. one of the more reasonable trades for Laffy that I've seen on here.

he's such a difficult person to trade for... i don't see drury moving him but for this package id have to think it would at least peak his interest

I don’t completely hate this as a Blues fan. Not sure how beneficial it would be to us though. It’s pretty much Smith or Mitchkov there.

No thanks.

It's not and adding in Dvorak would be a non-starter.

but i wanna see a Buch-Alexandrov-Michkov line in 4 years so badly lol

Dvorak would be a fine stop gap at #3C for the next 2 yrs it really aint that bad is it

Cap, dude. We are not adding millions in cap burden for Dvorak. There are loads of better options for far cheaper.

Heh. I can't imagine Alexandrov being good enough to center a top line. And honestly, I would be very surprised to see the Blues splurge so much for a winger, let alone a small one who isn't really fast and may not be over for years.

Well I definitely don't see them splurging for a C either, with Thomas and Schenn both locked in for the next 5yrs... plus, with the size alrdy on the team, getting a top-2 talent in a draft at 5th overall for the price of a 10th and 25th seems fairly reasonable. Anywho just my opinion

I don’t disagree. Would prefer if there was a better way to even cap out to do it. However, our guys with cap and term have NTCs.

I don’t think Dvorak would be a bad player to add. He can play 3C for us if Buch needs to go back to the wing. And he fits our core age range, and it’s a short term gamble.

I also don’t think the Blues are looking to move on from Blais. Too good of a comeback story last season to do so.

If it were Krug instead of Blais I would definitely be on board. And I think Krugs strengths could really help the Habs. However, I don’t see him waiving for Montreal or Canada aside from maybe Toronto.

Overall though if Scandella were moved this off-season. This is certainly something I’d consider.

Doing this trade is an acknowledgement that the Blues aren't going to be competitive for another year or two. The late round picks are their best currency for acquiring immediate help, or moving their own inefficient contracts. The benefit is they get their best swing at elite talent since 2008, the drawback is that elite talent can't help them for at least a year (more so if it's Michkov).

If the trade off for getting in the top five is taking an inefficient contract back at a position the Blues need a guy, that's not really something I would lose much sleep over. If it's between Dvorak for 2 years and a top 5 pick or re-signing Noel Accari for 3 years at 2.5 million, not really a hard choice for me.

The reality is the Blues, under current management and ownership, are never going to go in a direction where they plan to not make the playoffs for a few years, and that's why this doesn't happen from their perspective. Also it's a pretty weak deal for Montreal IMO.



*muppets voice* one of these things is not like the other

I'd do this trade depending on who is available at #5. If like Carlsson/Smith are there I would do it. If they are not there I don't do it

Disagree - if Smith is there at 5, Blues should do this

Drury says nope.

Personally I don’t think it’s one and the same.

What it does however is make it to where you have to have your d group bounce back.

But I think taking the 2-3 years verse having picks 10 and 25 really isn’t a large trade off. We have a number of forward prospects on the cusp. Armstrong also does a fantastic job at bringing in depth.

How sure are we that someone we like is even ready to be a heavy contributor at 10 in 2-3 years. Not to mention how sure are we we will have a spot for them to be able to grow into their potential.

Blues aren’t bad enough or in a bad enough situation to need an impact player next year or the year after. They can realistically wait for Mitchkov and still be a competitive team in the meantime.

I also don’t think adding a Dvorak if compensated correctly to do so is a horrible idea.

I guess "not be competitive" wasn't the right choice of words, more like "not tangibly make improvements at the NHL level from what we have right now", which I struggle to see how they could do without using those picks as currency. In theory, there's enough already here that they could definitely be competitive in the sense that they could be around the playoffs next year, though not a true cup contender. And they definitely won't be truly bad. Mushy middle team, playoffs isn't a given but it's certainly achievable.

But I do feel like doing a trade like this definitely puts the focus on having a top flight team 2-3 years from now, and next year's team is what it is, rather than what it seems like they want to do which is add NHL impact level talent that's 25-27 years old and try to get right back to contending like they were in 2021-22 and do that in perpetuity. Not saying they're right or wrong to want to do that, just that that's my read of what their intentions are.

In a way it kind of accomplished both. However, I don’t think they’d want to include Blais. Dvorak still is in that age range. Now he hasn’t progressed all that well but was a first rounder that could need a change. I don’t have a lot of faith for him. But given our alternative is having Buchnevich or Kapanen have to play Center without any other alternatives, it doesn’t seem like a bad gamble to take.

Still agree though. They may want to take a chance on a guy with lesser cap implications

There are loads of alternatives for a bottom 6 C, it's not take on Dvorak or else we're stuck with wingers situation.

Who do you think they'd target then? I personally can't see anyone much better than Dvorak out there

Hahaha what??? Dvorak has been meh at best for three years now while costing 4.5M per.

They'd surely love Acciari back. Someone like Haula might interest them. Both are easily better than Dvorak, at probably half the cost.

I wouldn't pay for Dvorak. But if the rest of the trade makes sense and we're getting a bit of value to take him I could see why it would be beneficial to.

He's not worth his contract right now, that's for sure. But at the same time, he's young and plays a position we're a little thin on. All i was getting at is there's reasoning behind doing a deal like this and adding him in to it if it drives down the price to move up. Fairly similar to the Vrana and Kapanen situations. It's a risk that's pretty low risk

The fact that you think acciari is better than Dvorak tells me all i need to know