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Créé par: BigBadBurke
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 23 mai 2023
Publié: 23 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Just humour me why dontcha...


In the 2023 NHL entry draft, the Habs select;

10th - David Reinbacher
23rd - Samuel Honzek
25th - Quentin Musty
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
77 777 777 $
55 555 555 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
13 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Blais, Samuel
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (STL)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
10th & 25th overall
STL
  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
5th overall
2.
MTL
  1. Lafrenière, Alexis [Droits de RFA]
  2. Sýkora, Adam
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
23rd overall
NYR
  1. Allen, Jake (1 925 000 $ retained)
  2. Caufield, Cole [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
Détails additionnels:
32nd overall
3.
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]
WPG
  1. Barron, Justin
  2. Edmundson, Joel
  3. Kidney, Riley
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
  5. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (VGK)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
Logo de STL
Logo de TOR
Logo de NYR
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de PIT
Logo de MTL
Logo de CGY
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
2024
Logo de MTL
Logo de COL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de SJS
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de EDM
2025
Logo de MTL
Logo de CGY
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $71 534 998 $1 170 000 $3 920 000 $11 965 002 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
5 555 555 $5 555 555 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
7 777 777 $7 777 777 $
C
UFA - 8
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
828 333 $828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
890 000 $890 000 $
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
766 667 $766 667 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1

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24 mai 2023 à 0 h 18
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Quoting: BigBadBurke
The fact that you think acciari is better than Dvorak tells me all i need to know


Does it, though? We could debate over who is better or who would be better specifically for the Blues all day. Sure. However, Dvorak at 4.5M v. Acciari at 1.5-2M is a no-brainer. Acciari is the faaaaaaaaar superior choice for value. Not even close. Plus, we already know he works great in the team. Again, a no-brainer.
24 mai 2023 à 1 h 24
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Quoting: mokumboi
Hahaha what??? Dvorak has been meh at best for three years now while costing 4.5M per.

They'd surely love Acciari back. Someone like Haula might interest them. Both are easily better than Dvorak, at probably half the cost.


Again, if it's Acciari/Haula and two picks in the twenties or Dvorak and the 5th overall pick (ie, the best shot this team has had at truly elite talent in over a decade), you take Dvorak with a big ol grin on your face. Turning a deal like that down in the hopes that you could maybe coax a free agent center- because you do need a center regardless- to a team that just missed the playoffs after the draft would be baffling asset management to me, unless those two late picks were turned into some form of immediate help before the draft.

I don't have much doubt Acciari or Haula would be more cost effective for what they give you than Dvorak, it's just not really relevant. In this proposal, the pick is the prize. Dvorak is just the cost of doing business while conveniently if inefficiently filling a roster need.
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24 mai 2023 à 4 h 59
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Again, if it's Acciari/Haula and two picks in the twenties or Dvorak and the 5th overall pick (ie, the best shot this team has had at truly elite talent in over a decade), you take Dvorak with a big ol grin on your face. Turning a deal like that down in the hopes that you could maybe coax a free agent center- because you do need a center regardless- to a team that just missed the playoffs after the draft would be baffling asset management to me, unless those two late picks were turned into some form of immediate help before the draft.

I don't have much doubt Acciari or Haula would be more cost effective for what they give you than Dvorak, it's just not really relevant. In this proposal, the pick is the prize. Dvorak is just the cost of doing business while conveniently if inefficiently filling a roster need.


I'm perfectly fine with taking Moore at 10 and keeping Blais/the 1st and not having Dvorak. I don't think Smith is going to be that much better than Moore overall to make it worth the trouble.
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24 mai 2023 à 10 h 56
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Quoting: mokumboi
I'm perfectly fine with taking Moore at 10 and keeping Blais/the 1st and not having Dvorak. I don't think Smith is going to be that much better than Moore overall to make it worth the trouble.


That's a fair point. But the main reason behind doing this deal was to improve the blues' chances at competing for the post season in the short term since their current core is all but solidified, AND get a generational type talent to effectively make them much better than a 10th/25th overall + Samuel blais makes them in the long run
24 mai 2023 à 11 h 0
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Quoting: TheEarthmaster
Again, if it's Acciari/Haula and two picks in the twenties or Dvorak and the 5th overall pick (ie, the best shot this team has had at truly elite talent in over a decade), you take Dvorak with a big ol grin on your face. Turning a deal like that down in the hopes that you could maybe coax a free agent center- because you do need a center regardless- to a team that just missed the playoffs after the draft would be baffling asset management to me, unless those two late picks were turned into some form of immediate help before the draft.

I don't have much doubt Acciari or Haula would be more cost effective for what they give you than Dvorak, it's just not really relevant. In this proposal, the pick is the prize. Dvorak is just the cost of doing business while conveniently if inefficiently filling a roster need.


Yeah that was essentially the idea.

Having Dvorak as a shutdown 3rd line C, who's been very effective in the dot and competes well across all three zones, playing behind Thomas and Schenn's lines who are ideally more offensive minded, for simply 2 more years at 4.45m doesn't seem to bother me as much as it does mokumboi but oh well to each their own
24 mai 2023 à 11 h 32
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Quoting: BigBadBurke
That's a fair point. But the main reason behind doing this deal was to improve the blues' chances at competing for the post season in the short term since their current core is all but solidified, AND get a generational type talent to effectively make them much better than a 10th/25th overall + Samuel blais makes them in the long run


Who thinks Smith is a generational talent? And I'll take Blais over Dvorak every single day of the week. He makes the Blues better for 1M. Dvorak is not interesting to me. Maybe he's another guy who just needs a different situation, but I'm not betting 2x4.5M on it.
24 mai 2023 à 16 h 15
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Who thinks Smith is a generational talent? And I'll take Blais over Dvorak every single day of the week. He makes the Blues better for 1M. Dvorak is not interesting to me. Maybe he's another guy who just needs a different situation, but I'm not betting 2x4.5M on it.


and whos mentionning smith? were talking about michkov here man where have you been
24 mai 2023 à 16 h 53
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Quoting: BigBadBurke
and whos mentionning smith? were talking about michkov here man where have you been


Sorry, Earthmaster was the one who mentioned Smith. Personally, I don't think Michkov makes it to #5.
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24 mai 2023 à 18 h 9
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Sorry, Earthmaster was the one who mentioned Smith. Personally, I don't think Michkov makes it to #5.


who do you think takes him, columbus or sjs?
24 mai 2023 à 21 h 7
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who do you think takes him, columbus or sjs?


Unless the Ducks galaxy brain it, the Sharks.
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